by RULES & REGULATIONS 25 Replies latest watchtower beliefs
Frannie:
they have the LEGAL right to be present during theinterrogationquestioning of said minor child and to call of the inquiry, as they see fit.
Not quite true....It would be true if the questioning were in a legal setting as in being questioned by the police, however since it takes place within a religious tribunal (JC) this doesn't apply and the child can legally be subjected to the conventions of the tribunal.
I don't know but I'd figure that they could say that as the child was mature enough to get baptised they know the consequences of their actions, even if they're 10....or 16 in the case in question.
How many youths do people know who are mature at 18 let alone 16? It would be much kinder if the borg could say - "they were obviously not mature" and the baptism gets recinded/cancelled/anulled kindathing and they're treated like a nonbaptised person of the same age would be if they made a mistake.
That would save so much heartache
Gary Buss said:
Forget the elders. It's the parents who are scum. What are they thinking
You are so right Gary. I was in my son's judicial mtg. when he was 16. It has haunted me to this day. But I did what I thought was right at the time.
He has never forgot it either. Went through years of therapy after I left to get a grip on this. And you know what??
All the kings horses and all the kings men couldn't put sister Reeve back together again.
Juni fuck all of you self righteous elders who do this to young people
YES -I was upset - I was elder at time (just before I resigned) and was in daughters JC
Not quite true....It would be true if the questioning were in a legal setting as in being questioned by the police, however since it takes place within a religious tribunal (JC) this doesn't apply and the child can legally be subjected to the conventions of the tribunal.
Lumptard, if the parents bring an attorney and wish to pursh it, their legal rights stand, even before the JC's "tribunal." That is, in this country, where "Caesar's law" rules. However, who and how many attend is supposed to be left to the decision of the person for whom the JC is convening, is my understanding.
Frannie
I don't know the specific rules but when I had my first JC at age 10 or 11 and my parents were with me. I wasn't baptised yet and I lost my talk and comment "privileges" for a few months. I was soooo SCARED and enbarased having to tell my parents and the elders what I did. From time to time I am forced to vividly re-live those terrifying moments that seemed to drag on for hours in the darkest parts of my nightmares.
My second JC at age 12, my parents didn't come with me. Again I lost talk and service "privileges" for a month this time it was because of my hair cut.
My Third JC with my new wife and both DFed at age 19, just days after getting married.
I don't know about any new light but when I was DF'd in 1976 I was alone with the elders for my "offense". My zealous mother is the one who turned me in to begin with but she wasn't in the room. She was outside the door and let's just say I wasn't very soft spoken so I'm sure she heard everything. Slimeballs.
My husband was an elder for over twenty years. He was present when the "spiritual shepherds" talked to my sixteen year old daughter. When they began to question her about fornication after telling my husband that there had been no accusation of any, he began to object. They told him he was just there to "ovserve" and ignored him and went right on for over two hours. They called her a liar, then df'd. her. That's why he WAS an elder.
A^%$#$%^ is what they are.
At age 16 back in the 70's my parents were not in the room. Also after a second comittee assigned by the big shots from headquarters for the "Appeal".....my parents were not allowed in for that one either. They had to wait in the main hall as I was interrogated in the back room.
Can you imagine a 16 year old (alone) being able to defend themselves in a court of law?
Restrangled.....you get the gist of my name?
as an elder my objective on a jc was to win over the wrongdoer
so if they wanted/needed someone else present then i wouldnt object
parent/child.....husband/wife....or if they had no family members then a friend
the object is to save the individual...not to punish...why cant the elders see that
