Religion and Insanity

by JWdaughter 14 Replies latest jw friends

  • JWdaughter
    JWdaughter

    Recently I have been reading a book, nearly done now, called "Under the Banner of Heaven". It is about some FUndamental Mormons (the ones who practice polygamy andwho are not accepted as LDS among regular members of the SLC based church.

    In this book, while explaining the attempted insanity plea for a fundy LDS murderer, they had several psychiatrists (both LDS and non LDS) explaining insanity. The argument I thought was interesting was when the defense brought up his very unorthodox beliefs (they sounded nutty to me-and would be considered so by most LDS folks also). The defense said that some of his convictions proved he was insane. He spoke of spirits invading his body, God talking to him, etc, etc. The prosecutions witnesses including an LDS person said that basically, religion as practiced by one person is insanity on its face. Believing in an invisible God who can read your thoughts, who can control the forces of nature, who will speak to you, whom you speak to, believing in spirits and their ability to have power over you, for good or evil-its all insane-if it is ONE persons belief. IF, however, you get enough people believing the same thing-it is just religion. And that seemed to be the big difference between religiously insane people and religiously sane people. If you are a lone crazy person, that is just what you are. If you can get followers, you are a guru, religious leader or prophet. (politician, radical business leader, social reformer, etc). They pointed out that believing in the virgin birth, transubstantiation, trinity, resurrection, god speaking to prophets, heaven . . .all the rest of the religious beliefs we can think of-are insane. If you believe it alone you are a crazy person. A GROUP of crazy people is a religious (or otherwise) movement.

    Its not just cults, people!

  • onlycurious
    onlycurious

    Count me in as one of the crazy insane religious people.

    But I'm a happy nut.

    Not a lone ranger happy nut. I belong to a bowl full of them!

    Some people call it a Jesus Freak.

  • Undecided
    Undecided

    To not be insane you also must have a book written about what you believe by some insane person who has had a dream or some inspired experience that he believes was by some God. Now everyone else is going to be killed by this God because he doesn't believe this insane person's revelation. Then you wait for thousands of years for this book to be fulfilled or you just die like everyone else and get your reward invisibly. You know you are right by some feeling you have that proves you are insane.

    Ken P.

  • JWdaughter
    JWdaughter

    I am wondering why it took me so long to even ADMIT that I had doubts about religion altogether. Not just the JWs. I remember I used to wish I had been born into a family that had a faith that was undemanding and undramatic. The morals w/o armageddon, d/f'ing, etc etc. But really, how is it much different but a different set of crazy ideas? I don't know. I am really wondering.

  • done4good
    done4good
    am wondering why it took me so long to even ADMIT that I had doubts about religion altogether. Not just the JWs. I remember I used to wish I had been born into a family that had a faith that was undemanding and undramatic. The morals w/o armageddon, d/f'ing, etc etc. But really, how is it much different but a different set of crazy ideas? I don't know. I am really wondering.

    The only differnence here is most other "mainstream" religions have had time to "settle down" somewhat, hence, no drama. The overall trend of almost any religion has been similar. Even the jws don't walk around with sandwich boards anymore. One could only expect that they will continue to tone things down somwhat too in the future as reality begins to play a bigger role in the minds of the r&f.

    Bottom line: insanity=no reality.

    j

  • Hortensia
    Hortensia

    "They pointed out that believing in the virgin birth, transubstantiation, trinity, resurrection, god speaking to prophets, heaven . . .all the rest of the religious beliefs we can think of-are insane. If you believe it alone you are a crazy person. A GROUP of crazy people is a religious (or otherwise) movement."

    I am so glad you shared that - it is so clear and succinct. I also, once free of the JW mindset, realized I had a problem with all religions, not just that one. That just happens to be the one I was involved with. But they are all crazy, especially religions that try to make modern people follow a mindset and rules that were created thousands and thousands of years ago by people who had an entirely different experience of life and different societal and survival needs.

  • Frannie Banannie
    Frannie Banannie

    LOL! I think it's a "Catch 22" situation, chere. You're crazy if you believe and you're crazy if you don't.

    Frannie

  • JamesThomas
    JamesThomas

    Living solely in the activity of thought, we are blind and deaf to the silence depths of reality; this is insanity; and pretty much western religion too.

    j

  • startingover
    startingover

    Looking back I have a hard time believing I once bought into the insanity. Thanks for sharing that.

  • Q. Bert
    Q. Bert

    Some insanity, it appears, is free of charge, and quite freely expressed. Others must run for their lives and their sanity or be found enabling the insane.

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