Just watched "Knocking" last nite

by LennyinBluemont 13 Replies latest jw friends

  • Kaput
    Kaput
    The question is--When are we as XJW's gonna do a good counter video to knocking? Will PBS give us the same backing that they have given the JW's? Will we ever have our chance to speak and let them know the damage the JW's have done in our lives and marriages?

    A nice grass roots campaign of anti-JW tracts placed on laundromat tables, jammed in pay phones and left in hospital waiting rooms would do the trick. I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for an UN-biased JW video.

  • garybuss
    garybuss

    Interesting review. Thanks! The producers had quite a job. They had to get inside of a closed group after they got funding, volunteers, and cooperation at corporate level. No easy feat.

    The profiles of the subjects such as college student Seth, didn't have much shock value on me after I got used to the idea that "Prince" is a Jehovah's Witness in good standing. Are we getting a look at the neo-Watch Tower Society? Or just a look at the left wing? Or what?

    Are they saying at Brooklyn that if you go to meetings, go in service, and risk your life in a blood treatment restrained operation that some concessions to orthodox behavior will be allowed? The group vice president and the head of corporate legal department no doubt are saying they will appear on a video with the college student Witness and his father. That seems to imply indifference if not approval.

    What did you think of Rabbi Michael Berenbaum's comments about the Witnesses as volunteer martyrs? And what did you think about Jared Hardie's comments that Witnesses don't take blood "in any form"?

  • Lady Lee
    Lady Lee
    The question is--When are we as XJW's gonna do a good counter video to knocking? Will PBS give us the same backing that they have given the JW's? Will we ever have our chance to speak and let them know the damage the JW's have done in our lives and marriages?

    Actually a series of three videos were done by Kohl Productions. The series included interviews by Dr. Penton, Mouthy/Grace and myself. The goal for the videos was to raise enough money for a larger exposee. Unfortunately the project has been sidelined while the producers work on putting meat and potatoes on the table. For now the website has been taken down but I have been reassured that the project has not been forgotten

  • LennyinBluemont
    LennyinBluemont

    Hey Gary,

    I still have respect for the JWs who refused to give in to Hitler and suffered the consequences. One could make the argument that had they actively resisted they would have done more good. But then the counter-argument could be that such action could be non-Christian. I noticed they left out Rutherford's anti-Semitic remarks when in the early days he was apparently trying to curry favor with Hitler's regime. Again, an opportunity was missed to present both sides, resulting in a biased presentation satisfying those funding the project.

    As to the blood issue, yes, they over-simplified what the JWs themselves have made an impossibly complex doctrine. With the fractions now allowed, particularly given the fact that some allowed fractions are derived by blood donated by non-JWs, it is meaningless for JWs to assert that they "abstain from blood". The section of liver Seth received from his dad, was of course, filled with whole blood, a seeming violation in itself. They excuse this by saying that you could never get all the blood out of meat that you consume. But was any effort ever made to drain the liver of blood before transplanting it? Of course, I'm glad Seth and his had are OK and things worked out well. The only conflicting point of view was presented by the grandmother, someone who apparently was never a witness, so her opinions can be easily dismissed as one who doesn't "get it".

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