Are the anointed declared righteous? While Great Crowd is not?

by M.J. 10 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

  • M.J.
    M.J.

    In the Revelation bookstudy this week, there was a subtle suggestion of another fundamental difference between members of the 144,000 and the Great Crowd:

    *** re chap. 9 p. 46 pars. 19-21 Holding Fast to Jesus’ Name ***

    Jesus said that his anointed followers who conquer would eat "the hidden manna." Like Christ before them, they get to enter, "not into a holy place made with hands, which is a copy of the reality, but into heaven itself." (Hebrews 9:12, 24) At their resurrection, they put on incorruption and immortality—a marvelous provision of Jehovah, symbolized by their being given the imperishable "hidden manna." How privileged that small group of overcomers is!—1 Corinthians 15:53-57.

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    These also receive "a white pebble." In Roman courts, pebbles were used in passing judgment. A white pebble meant acquittal, whereas a black pebble meant condemnation, often to death. Jesus’ giving "a white pebble" to the Christians in Pergamum would indicate that he adjudges them innocent, pure, and clean. But Jesus’ words may have a further meaning. In Roman times, pebbles were also used like tickets to gain entry to important events. So the white pebble may indicate something very special for the conquering anointed Christian—his being admitted to an honored place in heaven at the marriage of the Lamb. Only 144,000 such pebbles are provided.—Revelation 14:1; 19:7-9.

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    Does this mean that you are left unconsidered if you are one of the great crowd of companion worshipers? Not at all! While not receiving the white pebble of admittance into heaven, you may, if you endure, come out of the great tribulation to have a part in the joyful work of restoring Paradise on earth. Sharing with you in this will be resurrected faithful ones from pre-Christian times and those of the other sheep who may have died more recently. Eventually, all the other redeemed dead will be favored with a resurrection to life on a paradise earth.—Psalm 45:16; John 10:16; Revelation 7:9, 14.

    In essence, what I get from this is that the Anointed are already judged to be righteous (as per the words of Paul), while the Great Crowd is not.

    Originally, Russell's teaching on all consecrated Christians was that they were already imputed with righteousness and perfection, legally speaking, through the merit of Christ's ransom. Meanwhile, mankind outside of the "church" would have to wait until the Millennium to receive the merit of the Ransom throughout the course of the 1000 years.

    So in today's context, doesn't this mean that the Anointed have already received the merit of the Ransom, while the Great Crowd has not? The anointed are declared righteous, and the Great Crowd has not? That, to me, is a HUGE difference between the two classes, in contrast to claims by the WTS to the contrary.

    M.J.

  • Justitia Themis
    Justitia Themis

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    w982/1p.20TheOtherSheepandtheNewCovenant***

    Finally, Jehovah forgives the error of the other sheep on the basis of Jesus’ shed "blood of the covenant." (Matthew 26:28; 1 John 1:9; 2:2) God does not adopt them as spiritual sons, as he does the 144,000. But he does declare the other sheep righteous, in the sense that Abraham was declared righteous as God’s friend.—Matthew 25:46; Romans 4:2, 3; James 2:23.

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    For the 144,000, being declared righteous opens the way to their having the hope of ruling with Jesus in the heavenly Kingdom. (Romans 8:16, 17; Galatians 2:16) For the other sheep, being declared righteous as God’s friends allows them to embrace the hope of everlasting life in a paradise earth—either by surviving Armageddon as part of the great crowd or through the ‘resurrection of the righteous.’ (Acts 24:15) What a privilege to have such a hope and to be a friend of the Sovereign of the universe, to be "a guest in [his] tent"! (Psalm 15:1, 2) Yes, both anointed and other sheep are blessed in a wonderful way through Jesus, the Seed of Abraham.

  • M.J.
    M.J.

    Thanks. Wasn't there something in Insight regarding the Great Crowd being partially justified today, before being declared fully justified in the future??

  • Justitia Themis
    Justitia Themis

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    it-1p.606DeclareRighteous***

    A parallel situation may be noted in the vision recorded at Revelation 7:3-17. Here, a "great crowd" of indefinite number are shown as distinct from the 144,000 ‘sealed ones.’ (Compare Eph 1:13, 14; 2Co 5:1.) That this "great crowd" enjoys a righteous standing before God is indicated by the fact that they are described as having "washed their robes and made them white in the blood of the Lamb."—Re 7:14.

    The "great crowd," who survive the "great tribulation," are not yet declared righteous forlife—that is, as worthy of the right to everlasting life on earth. They need to continue partaking of the "fountains of waters of life," as guided by the Lamb, Christ Jesus. They will need to do this during the Millennial Reign of Christ. (Re 7:17; 22:1, 2) If they prove loyal to Jehovah through a final test at the end of the thousand years, they will have their names permanently retained in God’s book of life, Jehovah thus declaring, or acknowledging, that they finally are righteous in the complete sense.—Re 20:7, 8; see LIFE (Trees of Life).

  • Zico
    Zico

    Contrast this quote:

    'So the white pebble may indicate something very special for the conquering anointed Christian' (It may?)

    With this one, taken from Para. 22:

    'These anointed Christians receive the pebble after they have finished their earthly course as conquerors'

    So, not may, but does?

    The book study this week was a joke (like every week!) There is absolutely no link in Revelation between the white pebbles and the 144,000. This is why they originally wrote 'may' (which is just them speculating) but they still jump from 'may' in para 20, to a definite statement in para. 22.

    Apostates got a real bashing this week as well!

  • hamsterbait
    hamsterbait

    What is so crazy about all this, is that the Great Crowd is shown already in Heaven in the "divine habitation" of the temple BEFORE the general resurrection to earthly life of non-christians. These are the ones who are judged after the final test - not the great crowd.

    Notice that Jesus says that to him "who conquers I shall give a white robe... and his name shall never be blotted out of the book of life" Rev 2:5. Rev 7 apparently takes place prior to the releasing of the four winds of tribulation on the earth.

    In Rev 19 the voice of the great multitude says that the marriage of the Lamb is ABOUT to take place. Since this happens before the destruction of the wicked, again I ask how can the Great crowd not yet have been judged as successful conquerors?

    HB

  • M.J.
    M.J.
    that they finally are righteous in the complete sense.

    ...which essentially means they are not completely declared righteous, or in other words, partially declared righteous. To me, that's sort of like being considered partially pregnant.

  • unbaptized
    unbaptized

    To my knowledge no reward is received until they prove themselves til death. The white pebble and hidden manna is dispensed when they enter the Heavens.

    They are then declared righteous when they finish their course of life on earth. No one is declared righteous unless God says they are

    It's a free gift that cannot be earned

  • greendawn
    greendawn

    This brings up the question: what have the "anointed" done more than the "great crowd" to deserve a better treatment. I couldn't see them doing anything better than the rest of the dubs. So why declare them to be more righteous?

  • zack
    zack

    The WTS makes that differetiation in order to uphold their FDS doctrine. How much sense does it really make to give one group of people "IMMORTALITY' (the anointed)

    and the other group only conditional approval when both groups have to endure the same things? What's more, the only way for the great crowd to get "everlasting" life is to endure yet another test at the end of 1000 years. So, pass 1 test get immortality. But if you pass 2 tests, you get mortal life on Earath--- but you can be zappped into Gehenna at any moment for any infraction the "new" scrolls will make known.

    A drunk came up with that!

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