JWs claim disfellowshipping is biblical!

by greendawn 20 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

  • V
    V

    And what about reinstatement?

    There is NO scriptural backing for the JW policy of reinstatement, making a Dfed person attend meetings for about a year without any social interaction, writing a letter, etc.

    Let's play "Find the Scripture" shall we?


    Organized to Do Jehovah’s Will, page 157

    REINSTATEMENT

    A disfellowshipped person may be reinstated when he gives clear evidence of repentance, demonstrating over a reasonable period of time that he has abandoned his sinful course and is desirous of having a good relationship with Jehovah and His organization. The elders are careful to allow sufficient time, perhaps many months, a year, or even longer, for the disfellowshipped person to prove that his repentance is genuine. When the body of elders receives a written plea for reinstatement, the judicial committee that disfellowshipped the person should, if possible, be the committee that speaks with the individual. The committee will evaluate the evidence of works of godly repentance on his part and decide whether to reinstate him at that time or not.

    If the person requesting reinstatement was disfellowshipped by another congregation, a local judicial committee may meet with the person and consider the plea. Thereafter, the local judicial committee will communicate with the body of elders of the congregation that disfellowshipped the individual, giving them its recommendation. The involved committees will work together in unity to ensure that all the facts are gathered and a just decision is made. However, the decision to reinstate is made by the original judicial committee of the congregation that took the disfellowshipping action. If some members of the original committee are no longer in the congregation or qualified to serve, other elders from the original congregation can be chosen to replace them.

    When the judicial committee is convinced that the disfellowshipped person is genuinely repentant and should be reinstated, an announcement of the reinstatement is made in the congregation where the individual was disfellowshipped. If the person is now in another congregation, the announcement will be made there as well. It should simply state: "[Name of person] is reinstated as one of Jehovah's Witnesses."


    Nae, no scripture.

  • sammielee24
    sammielee24

    A disfellowshipped person may be reinstated when he gives clear evidence of repentance, demonstrating over a reasonable period of time that he has abandoned his sinful course and is desirous of having a good relationship with Jehovah and His organization. The elders are careful to allow sufficient time, perhaps many months, a year, or even longer, for the disfellowshipped person to prove that his repentance is genuine. When the body of elders receives a written plea for reinstatement, the judicial committee that disfellowshipped the person should, if possible, be the committee that speaks with the individual. The committee will evaluate the evidence of works of godly repentance on his part and decide whether to reinstate him at that time or not.

    If the person requesting reinstatement was disfellowshipped by another congregation, a local judicial committee may meet with the person and consider the plea. Thereafter, the local judicial committee will communicate with the body of elders of the congregation that disfellowshipped the individual, giving them its recommendation. The involved committees will work together in unity to ensure that all the facts are gathered and a just decision is made. However, the decision to reinstate is made by the original judicial committee of the congregation that took the disfellowshipping action. If some members of the original committee are no longer in the congregation or qualified to serve, other elders from the original congregation can be chosen to replace them.

    ......and it's all the biggest load of bullcrap you can smell! Not only does the JC that disfellowshipped the person have any biblical right to reinstate a person BUT what the $#%% makes one single person even begin to think that those Elders living miles and miles away from the repentant one, have a clue as to his or her behaviour or thoughts. Give me a bloody break! I know Elders that have kept people out simply because they felt like it - even though the person wishing to be reinstated lives a thousand miles away so they don't have a clue as to what the person life is like. Sometimes people just bear grudges or they are just jerks - and that does include some Elders. Grrrrrrrrrrrr......sammieswife.

  • Sirona
    Sirona

    noooooo

  • Sirona
    Sirona

    sorry that wasn't me, it was Cordelia using my login accidentally,

    Sirona

  • Hellrider
    Hellrider

    Paul reccomends/orders "disfellowshipping" on two occasions in his letters: The one in 1 Corinthians 5 (a man who is sleeping with his fathers wife), and the occasion in 1 Timothy, in which Paul states that he has expelled Hymeneaus and Alexander for heresies (regarding the ressurection). What the Jehovahs Witness doesn`t understand, is this: Paul was (supposedly) spirit-guided...as he was one of the men who wrote the Bible, the christian has to assume that he actually was spirit-guided. So, if Paul ordered an excommunication (at that time), we all have to assume that he was right to do so. But this does not mean that all and anyone who claims to be spirit-guided today, 2000 years later, actually are! And so, to avoid the trap of becoming a sinner oneself, one should exercise great caution in this principle of "disfellowshipping" and "shunning". Because the Bible also clearly states that "do not judge, so that you yourself also shall be..."etc. Also, the JWs doesn`t seem to understand that these texts of Paul are letters, written to these particular churches, at another time, and in another place, and their primary meaning must be seen in this context. Only by extension are they relevant today, and the gap in time, space and culture (2000 years...) must be of some significance, right?

  • MinisterAmos
    MinisterAmos
    it was Cordelia using my login

    That sounds kind of hot.....

  • Frannie Banannie
    Frannie Banannie

    Murder, outright slaughter of whole cities and crowds of people, mayhem, fornication, adultery, theft and having more than one wife are also biblical.

    So is MERCY.

  • diamondblue1974
    diamondblue1974

    Christians are taught that Jesus was the kind of man that would embrace people who were sinners; we were taught that he was loving and kind and given that Christianity fundamentally displays Christ as an example it would be incredulous to think that Jesus would condone turning your back on your loved ones just because they appear to be straying off the straight and narrow. Surely if you were genuine, this would be the time to spend more time with that person in the hope that they would return to better behaviours.

    Wasnt disfellowshipping the brainchild of Paul? Wasnt Paul a lawyer? Is it coincidental that he appears to be more dogmatic and rule based?!

    Regardless, the witnesses use the appropriate scriptures to their own ends and twist the words to suit their agenda - that agenda is to silence critics, free thinkers and independent people. Disfellowshipping in the true witness sense is not biblical in the slightest.

    Gary

  • A Paduan
    A Paduan

    As the Lord said: "If he refuses to listen to them, tell it to the church; and if he refuses to listen even to the church, let him be to you as a Gentile and a tax collector."

    I suppose it depends on how you treat gentiles and tax collectors - it appears people differ from the jws in this respect

  • free2beme
    free2beme

    Not really all that unusual, most clubs, jobs and even a few religions will kick people out (fire them) if they do not follow the rules.

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