families should not have anything to do with inactive family members -

by orbison11 20 Replies latest jw friends

  • babygirl75
    babygirl75

    I asked this to my dad (PO in his congregation) this last night...

    He said that this is NOT true...He said that if one was to to turn apostate, or to join the military, then they would by their "actions" disassociate themselves and that is how you would treat such ones, but if one was to just be inactive, they would not be treated the same as being df'd or da'd, but at the same time they would not be one that you would want to search out to have fellowship with other than to try to help them back.

  • LongHairGal
    LongHairGal

    I believe they are shunning inactive ones. I have felt it even though I am only "fading" because of my circumstances. The joke is that I wasn't even popular when I was active. Some of the idiots were shunning me back then. Gary Bus. is right about being vigilant if you do not want to be totally shunned but it doesn't matter much to me.

    LHG

  • blondie
    blondie
    "Are you acquainted with anyone who has become inactive? Perhaps he has stopped associating with the congregation and has drifted away. You may have contacted such a person while engaging in the ministry. We must keep in mind that the individual continues to be our spiritual brother....... A brief telephone call or visit may assure one who has become inactive that we have not forgotten him. We may be encouraging by simply letting the person know we are thinking of him.......... " (Feb. 07 KM)

    In writing, but contact is only to be made to encourage them to come to the meetings and that they "care." Doesn't matter that the last time you heard from them was the same time last year just before the Memorial. But you are not encouraged to ask them over for dinner, or to go to a movie, or out to eat, or to a party at your house. You are treated much like the "anonymous" people who are "marked" from the platfrom.

    Blondie

    *** w99 7/15 p. 31 Questions From Readers ***

    They can arrange for a talk on why such disorderliness is to be avoided. They will not mention names, but their warning talk will help to protect the congregation because responsive ones will take extra care to limit social activities with any who clearly display such disorderliness.
    Hopefully, in time the disorderly one will be ashamed of his ways and will be moved to change. As the elders and others in the congregation see the change, they can individually decide to end the limitation they have put on personally socializing with him.
  • anewme
    anewme

    Oh yes, there it is from Blondie's files! THAT KIND OF ATTITUDE AND GROUP ENCOURAGED SNOTTINESS I DO NOT MISS!
    "HOPEFULLY IN TIME THE DISORDERLY ONE WILL BE ASHAMED OF HIMSELF AND CHANGE HIS WAYS"

    Yuck.


    Thankyou Watchtower for protecting us from disorderly ones. BUT WHO WILL PROTECT US FROM YOU AND YOUR SELF RIGHTEOUS UNCHRISTIAN MANIPULATING INTERFERING FAMILY-SPLITTING CULT?

  • agapa37
    agapa37

    Thankyou Watchtower for protecting us from disorderly ones. BUT WHO WILL PROTECT US FROM YOU AND YOUR SELF RIGHTEOUS UNCHRISTIAN MANIPULATING INTERFERING FAMILY-SPLITTING CULT? That is true in some instances, however, from seeing and witnessing personal experiences, alot of familys break up to do a spouse CHEATING on the other, something that is not encouraged.

  • LovesDubs
    LovesDubs

    Judgementalism is a way of life for JWs. Like caged animals, they turn on each other and start picking on each others lives like vultures on roadkill. They have NOTHING ELSE TO DO but belittle and tattle and beat down their fellow slaves. Its disgusting. This is why I would NEVER WANT TO BE IN PARADISE WITH THESE PEOPLE!! Jesus...the thought of living in a world with ONLY JWs would drive me to suicide to end the misery.

    They dont have to WAIT to get it in writing to dismiss, shun, ignore or bully other human beings. The society was CONSTANTLY telling us not to associate with "weak ones" citing their time sheets as an indicator of whether or not they were strong and therefore worthy, to be associated with.

    It doesnt need to be in writing for them to start their OWN LAWS and their OWN RUMORS and suddenly you are on the OUTSIDE.

    simple as that

    asswipes

  • sspo
    sspo

    It's not the policy of the Watchtower but individual choice on the part of JW, some with strict conscience have decided not to talk to inactive ones

    family members, especially if they know they are involved in "unchristian conduct".

  • undercover
    undercover

    This is one of those situations where it would be almost impossible to explain to an outsider. You have to live through it to know exactly how it works. This is an example of why this religion can be considered a cult.

    Technically speaking, only DFd and DAd people are shunned. Inactive ones are to be encouraged and helped. But then, at times, it is brought out that one must be wary of those who are not active. While never suggested that inactive ones should be shunned, it is cautioned that those who longer actively associate with the congregation can be damaging to others.

    The counsel is contradictory to a point. Help them...but don't trust them. Encourage them...but don't socialize with them too much. Talk with them...but be careful about listening to what they tell you.

    That kind of counsel repeated over and over through the years creates in the still active, a fear of and mistrust of those who become inactive.

    That's what the WTS wants...for their sheep to steer clear of any who might present a problem for them.

    Notice also that almost always, those who become inactive are presented as needing help...creating the perception of the inactive as weak.

  • willyloman
    willyloman
    If you haven't been to a meeting or memorial in a few years, that's not inactive, that's looking like disassociated without a letter

    Precisely how it works! You are "DA without portfolio"!

  • LongHairGal
    LongHairGal

    Undercover:

    You are right in that they do not want anybody there to have contact with somebody who would cause a problem for them. That is why they try to create the impression the person who leaves or becomes inactive is "weak", often insinuating with terms such as "loose conduct" that the person has a problem with immorality when that may not be the case. It is also contradictory to say help them but stay away from them....Their favorite expression is "agape love". I liken it to sliding food through a cage to the lion at the zoo. Don't get too close!

    They absolutely do not want anybody to know that somebody left because something is wrong with the religion.

    LHG

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