To err is human... to really mess things up requires a computer.

by Elsewhere 12 Replies latest jw friends

  • Elsewhere
    Elsewhere

    http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/americas/04/19/canada.couch.ap/index.html?eref=rss_topstories

    Chinese translation error blamed for slur on sofa label

    TORONTO, Ontario (AP) -- Doris Moore was shocked when her new couch was delivered to her Toronto home with a label that used a racial slur to describe the dark brown shade of the upholstery.

    The situation was even more alarming for Moore because it was her 7-year-old daughter who pointed out "nigger brown" on the tag.

    "My daughter saw the label and she knew the color brown, but didn't know what the other word meant. She asked, 'Mommy, what color is that?' I was stunned. I didn't know what to say. I never thought that's how she'd learn of that word," Moore said.

    The mother complained to the furniture store, which blamed the supplier, who pointed to a computer problem as the source of the derogatory label

    Kingsoft Corp., a Chinese software company, acknowledged its translation program was at fault and said it was a regrettable error.

    "I know this is a very bad word," Huang Luoyi, a product manager for the Beijing-based company's translation software, told The Associated Press in a telephone interview.

    He explained that when the Chinese characters for "dark brown" are typed into an older version of its Chinese-English translation software, the offensive description comes up.

    "We got the definition from a Chinese-English dictionary. We've been using the dictionary for 10 years. Maybe the dictionary was updated, but we probably didn't follow suit," he said.

    Moore, who is black, said Kingsoft's acknowledgment of a mistake does not make her feel better.

    "They should know what they are typing, even if it is a software error," she said. "In order for something to come into the country, don't they read it first? Doesn't the manufacturer? The supplier?"

    Romesh Vanaik, owner of Vanaik Furniture, where Moore bought the sofa, said it has been a best seller. He said he checked his stock but found no other couch with the offensive label.

    "It's amazing. I've been here since 1972 and I never knew the meaning of this word," said Vanaik, a native of India.

    His supplier, Paul Kumar of Cosmos Furniture in Toronto, denied responsibility and refused to give the name of the couch's Chinese manufacturer.

    "It's not my fault. It's not the manufacturers' fault," he said, adding that Kingsoft was to blame.

    Huang said Kingsoft has worked to correct the translation error. In the 2007 version, typing "dark brown" in Chinese does not produce the racial slur in English. But if the offensive term is typed in English, the Chinese translation is "dark brown," he said.

    Moore is consulting with a lawyer and wants compensation. Last week, she filed a report with the Ontario Human Rights Commission.

    Commission spokeswoman Afroze Edwards said the case is in the initial stages and could take six months to two years to resolve.

    Moore, 30, has three young children, and said the issue has taken a toll on her family.

    "Something more has to be done. We don't just need a personal apology, but someone needs to own up to where these labels were made, and someone needs to apologize to all people of color," Moore said. "I had friends over from St. Lucia yesterday and they wouldn't sit on the couch."

  • Abandoned
    Abandoned

    "We got the definition from a Chinese-English dictionary. We've been using the dictionary for 10 years. Maybe the dictionary was updated, but we probably didn't follow suit," he said.

    Ummm, yeah, that was an acceptable term ten years ago....

  • nvrgnbk
    nvrgnbk

    I'm as open-minded as the next guy(actually a hell of alot more) but............c'mon!

    Nvr

  • Tuesday
    Tuesday
    Moore is consulting with a lawyer and wants compensation. Last week, she filed a report with the Ontario Human Rights Commission.

    Why? Yeah it's a horrible word and all, but seriously rip off the tag and keep the couch.

    I don't really get it, compensation for what? To me if I was a Judge it would be "She gets her money back on the couch but she has to return the couch." I'll bet any amount of money that she's consulting a lawyer now and that's not part of the agreement, she wants compensation AND wants to keep the couch.

    Something more has to be done. We don't just need a personal apology, but someone needs to own up to where these labels were made, and someone needs to apologize to all people of color

    So if they send out a press release apologizing, would that mean she would drop the lawsuit? I'm guessing by something more needs to be done it means she gets money.

  • zagor
    zagor

    Well at least that was the computer program, what I would like to know what excuse WTBS has for using exactly the same word if few of their publications.

  • juni
    juni

    The wording of your Topic is very novel Elsewhere.

    I'm w/Tuesday on this one. Come on Ms. Moore. You are making a mockery of the facts.

    Juni

  • Finally-Free
    Finally-Free
    Moore is consulting with a lawyer and wants compensation. Last week, she filed a report with the Ontario Human Rights Commission.

    Ok, I saw the offending word in this thread, so I want compensation. I also hear it in music and occasionally on television, so I should get compensation for that too. Everyone should be compensated every time they hear, see, smell, or taste something offensive. It's our right!!!

    W

  • Bumble Bee
    Bumble Bee

    What some people will sue over! It's no wonder the court systems are so backlogged. This wasn't something done deliberately, purposely to this family. Why isn't an apology enough?

    I'll admit - they do need much better ways of translating tags/instructions on products made in China. Jay Leno has had some hillarious examples on his show, and there are times when I just have to shake my head wondering who in the world checks these things before they print them!

    BB

  • juni
    juni

    I'm with ya BB and Rocco's daddy.

    Hey W! Make sure Rocco's pizza isn't too hot or he might file a suit against you for deliberately burning his beak or toes......

  • greendawn
    greendawn

    When it comes to translations computer software make a total mess of it, and sometimes the results are hilarious rather than offensive. These are also called machine translations. Those that thought human translators would become reduntant were too much in a hurry.

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