Pythagoras wasn't crazy after all!!!!

by Sunnygal41 26 Replies latest social current

  • Sunnygal41
    Sunnygal41

    As some may know, Pythagoras had a theory that the planets made music.......today, I saw this article and wanted to share it............

    Sun's Atmosphere Sings

    Jeanna Bryner
    Staff Writer
    SPACE.com Thu Apr 19, 11:30 AM ET

    Astronomers have recorded heavenly music bellowed out by the Sun's atmosphere.

    Snagging orchestra seats for this solar symphony would be fruitless, however, as the frequency of the sound waves is below the human hearing threshold. While humans can make out sounds between 20 and 20,000 hertz, the solar sound waves are on the order of milli-hertz--a thousandth of a hertz.

    The study, presented this week at the Royal Astronomical Society's National Astronomy Meeting in Lancashire, England, reveals that the looping magnetic fields along the Sun's outer regions, called the corona, carry magnetic sound waves in a similar manner to musical instruments such as guitars or pipe organs.

    Making music

    Robertus von Fay-Siebenburgen of the Solar Physics and Space Plasma Research Center at the University of Sheffield and his colleagues combined information gleaned from sun-orbiting satellites with theoretical models of solar processes, such as coronal mass ejections.

    They found that explosive events at the Sun's surface appear to trigger acoustic waves that bounce back and forth between both ends of the loops, a phenomenon known as a standing wave.

    "These magnetic loops are analogous to a simple guitar string," von Fay-Siebenburgen explained. "If you pluck a guitar string, you will hear the music."

    In the cosmic equivalent of a guitar pick, so-called microflares at the base of loops could be plucking the magnetic loops and setting the sound waves in motion, the researchers speculate. While solar flares are the largest explosions in the solar system, microflares are a million times smaller but much more frequent; both phenomena are now thought to funnel heat into the Sun's outer atmosphere.

    The acoustic waves can be extremely energetic, reaching heights of tens of miles, and can travel at rapid speeds of 45,000 to 90,000 miles per hour. "These [explosions] release energy equivalent to millions of hydrogen bombs," von Fay-Siebenburgen said.

    "These energies are plucking these magnetic strings or standing pipes, which set up standing waves--exactly the same waves you see on a guitar string," von Fay-Siebenburgen told SPACE.com. The "sound booms" decay to silence in less than an hour, dissipating in the hot solar corona.

    Solar physics

    The musical finding could help explain why the Sun's corona is so hot.

    While the Sun's surface is a steamy 10,000 degrees Fahrenheit (5,538 degrees Celsius), plasma gas in the corona soars to more than 100 times hotter.

    "How can the atmosphere above the surface of the Sun be hotter if nuclear fusion happens inside the Sun?" von Fay-Siebenburgen said. If astronomers can get a clearer picture of what's going on inside these magnetic loops in the Sun's atmosphere, they have a better chance of finding the answer.

    Another recent study using images from Hinode's telescope revealed twisted magnetic fields along the Sun's surface, which store huge amounts of energy. The magnetic fields can snap like a rubber band; when they do, they might release energy that could heat up the corona or power solar eruptions and coronal mass ejections, the researchers say.

  • Terry
    Terry

    As metaphorical articles go, this is perhaps the most dazzling example.

    It is almost like writing an article on the shape of clouds and telling how they are "like" alligators and volkswagons.

    Physics popularizers can't use math or they chase the civilians away. Consequently, they resort to metaphorical expatiation and the public at large assumes the allusions are concrete.

    Thanks for posting this. I prefer this author's writing to fruitcakes such as Frijtof Capra (or whatever his name is.)

  • La Capra
    La Capra

    "If you pluck a guitar string, you will hear the music." This is the flawed statement in the article. The process of noise (or sub-noise, as the case seems to be)creation is in no way the equivalent of "making music." That would be the same as saying when I spilled flat latex paint on my floor last month, I made art. I too get frustrated by pseudo-science trying to slip a higher meaning into stuff that just doesn't exist. Pythagorus figured out other cool stuff though. Shoshana

  • daystar
    daystar

    "I don't know if it's art, but I know what I like."

    I am a fairly serious audiophile.

    The process of noise (or sub-noise, as the case seems to be)creation is in no way the equivalent of "making music."

    You must understand that this is your opinion and is not fact.

    "Rock 'n' roll ain't noise pollution!"

    I greatly enjoy quite a lot of music that many, many, many people would consider simply noise, even Rock 'n' Rollers. And to a certain degree, I may agree. But, it's still music to my ears.

  • Terry
    Terry

    I greatly enjoy quite a lot of music that many, many, many people would consider simply noise, even Rock 'n' Rollers. And to a certain degree, I may agree. But, it's still music to my ears.

    I was in the Art business for 30 years as an artist, etching studio master inker, general manager of an atelier, art gallery salesman, art gallery manager, art rep, and custom framing expert.

    I discovered quite by accident that people project onto art what the "see" as though it came FROM the art.

    Men do this automatically. Women, less so.

    What is in the person is then (by process of projection) found in the art.

    This is largely how we "find" what we like.

    We then ask the question: Do I like it beacuse it is good? Or...Is it good because I like it?

    I find it irrelevent.

    An artist cannot help but do art.

    The audience "finds" the art which matches their temperment and projects "meaning" onto it.

    De Facto it is the audience which enables art to BE or not to be.

    (My apologies to Bill Shakespeare.)

  • VM44
    VM44

    As this thread is about Pythagoras, it would be appropriate to bring attention to this forthcoming book about the theorem named after him. --VM44

    The Pythagorean Theorem: A 4,000-Year History

    http://www.amazon.com/Pythagorean-Theorem-000-Year-History/dp/0691125260

  • daystar
    daystar

    I always find these sorts of connections interesting...:

    Influence on esoteric groups

    Pythagoras started a secret society called the Pythagorean brotherhood devoted to the study of mathematics. This had a great effect on future esoteric traditions, such as Rosicrucianism and Freemasonry, both of which were occult groups dedicated to the study of mathematics and both of which claimed to have evolved out of the Pythagorean brotherhood. The mystical and occult qualities of Pythagorean mathematics are discussed in a chapter of Manly P. Hall's The Secret Teachings of All Ages entitled "Pythagorean Mathematics".

    Pythagorean theory was tremendously influential on later numerology, which was extremely popular throughout the Middle East in the ancient world. The 8th-centuryIslamicalchemistJabir ibn Hayyan grounded his work in an elaborate numerology greatly influenced by Pythagorean theory.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pythagorus

  • rebel8
    rebel8

    What type of art do you do Terry? I'd like to see some.

  • myelaine
    myelaine

    ...I will act, says Don Quixote, as if the world were what I would have it to be, as if the ideal were real...

  • hillary_step
    hillary_step

    Daystar,

    Did I spot the word 'audiophile'? I share your interest, though mainly analogue. What are you running presently? Maybe we should start a new thread and tease the audiophiles from the shadows?

    Best regards - HS

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