Attorney EXJW SUES K-HALL for HER OWN RAPE

by DannyHaszard 29 Replies latest watchtower child-abuse

  • BlackSwan of Memphis
    BlackSwan of Memphis
    Perhaps her aim is not so much to 'win'--knowing full well that, legally, requirements cannot be 'satisfied.' Perhaps she wants simply to bring EXPOSURE to the matter--to that #$(&^#* father of hers...and to the ($@^* Watchtower Society that turns its back so frequently while allowing these things to proliferate. Sometimes EXPOSURE is the only way to fight back...especially where actual legal justice can never be expected to prevail. The same would be true in the case of my ex-husband as well. I could never expect to successfully sue or convict...but I am sometimes so tempted to e-x-p-o-s-e him...!! Sometimes I seriously wonder why I don't...and whether this also makes me accomplice to any future acts he does....

    You make a good point and I had not thought of that. This is what I was thinking: There Are some seriously solid cases out there (like Yours!!!) that can really help. When a case is Not solid and has little basis, it can do more harm then good. I have a question for you, and if you are too uncomfortable answering it, I understand: Have you thought of contacting Ms Norris?

    It sounds like she should sue the Apple Valley Police Department instead. If I'm reading this correctly it states that a police report was filled with the police department, but since there was no corroborative witness the District Attorney's office couldn't press charges.

    Once again while sad, this is just a case taken out of context. Funny how almost everyone here is saying they hope she wins. I hope she wins also but first she has to start by suing the police department who wanted a corroborative witness to the abuse, after the police report was filled.

    See this is what I'm wondering. Especially in light of the fact that she personally witnessed her sister being abused. But this is an Awesome Example of why it is SO IMPORTANT for a victim of a sexual crime especially to go to the proper authorities first and foremost. Go to a hospital, go to the police dpt...Get the Evidence. Without it, a case is often lost. The smalles corrobative evidence, dna from semen, hair, skin etc can solidify the case. I don't think people realize how often a victim of a sexual crime do not go to the police or to a hospital. In short, they don't get help. Very, very sad and very scary.

  • sf
    sf
    WHAT is it going to take to have some kind of major impact on the public or to have the media really take an interest (and take ACTION) on this evil but coddled and protected cult?

    When the CODDLED and PROTECTED ACTIVE JWS get off their asses and expose it.

    sKally

  • MinisterAmos
    MinisterAmos

    I called them from my KH today and asked to speak to Elder Pedophile. I PRAY they have caller ID!

  • sf
  • R6Laser
    R6Laser

    I'm not saying she shouldn't sue. She has all the rights to do so and expose whoever commited the assault. The point here is that according to the article it mentioned that the POLICE REPORT was filed and the POLICE DEPARTMENT didn't or couldn't bring charges to the District Attorney's office. So its them who are at fault here, the POLICE DEPARTMENT. Are we all blind here that we can't read an article without blowing it out of context.

  • Mary
    Mary
    According to the complaint, when Popper questioned her father about his behavior in 1986, her father stated, “No, no, no darling. That’s our little secret. But if anyone else tells you about a little secret, you come directly to me and tell me, OK.”

    What a pig!! I hope this creep gets 30 years in general population. As for her suing the Organization....well, I can't see that she has too much of a case. Unless she actually reported the abuse to the elders and they did squat, they're not really liable in this particular case. How can they report something to the police or even take action against the guilty party unless they know about it?

  • Xirian
    Xirian

    I believe that the father (John Doe) is the ONLY one that should be held responsible for his actions. Just because this person was raised in a Jehovah's Witness environment, doesn't mean that the Jehovah's Witness congregation is to blame for the actions of one of it's members, in his own home, on his own time.

    They are not the keepers of the adults or the keeper of that particular adult's children, but only a group that has views that are different from other groups, many which I do not agree with. And yes there are many cases of JWs related to child abuse, but this case doesn't fit the profile of the entire congregation being sued, as far as the information that we have to go on. The congregation did not abuse this woman. Just because they weren't there for her, doesn't mean they condoned this type of behavior. How do we even know she even went to the Jehovah's Witnesses for help? Why is the congregation being sued? Why can't we just prosecute the person who is liable and not everyone that happens to cross that person's path?

    ~Xirian~

  • Shawn10538
    Shawn10538

    The Tower of Wood has a name: Jenga (It's a game.)

  • Confession
    Confession

    This has been an interesting thread for me. I'm pretty sure we've read Ms. Popper's story before. I think Randy posted it some months back. What I've noticed in this thread (first by Black Swan--but then others) is an attempt to be rational about an emotionally charged subject. Not easy to do.

    About a year and a half ago, I posted my four-part story about having served on the judicial committee (and subsequent disfellowshipping) of a close elder friend accused of pedophilia. http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/6/103545/1.ashx One of my reasons for doing so was finding a fair number of contributors here on JWD who expressed anger at me for not (at the time of the committee) recognizing the need to go to the police on this matter. My explanation that, as a fully indoctrinated JW, the thought of doing so never occurred to me was of no interest to some of these people.

    Interestingly I once asked those coming to this forum this question: "If you had a female friend who was raped--but who decided not to press charges against the perpetrator--would you, against her wishes, go to the police to turn him in?" Almost everyone said they would not.

    In this thread we read of the sad case of JW Daughter who, along with at least two other people, was sexually abused by her own husband. She herself admits that at the present time she has still not come forward to turn him in to the authorities.

    It would appear that, in the particular case brought out in this thread, lots of contributors recognize that the congregation (as far as we know) can't be implicated. Previously I've asked folks on JWD to consider this scenario: A friend of yours tells you that he walked into a room where his child was being sexually abused by a neighbor you both know. For whatever reason he does not go to the police. It's true that you could go to them yourself. But if you don't, who is more culpable? You? Or the parent who actually witnessed the abuse?

    Of course it's true that, in the past, the WTS had strongly discouraged the congregation from going to the authorities. That was terribly wrong. It's also true that, even if they have now discontinued this discouragement, with no encouragement to do so, the average JW still feels that he or she may be bringing reproach on Jehovah and/or the congregation by going to the authorities. Considering the strong position of authority the WTS assumes, to me it seems incumbent upon them to take a proactive approach, clearly informing victims and their parents of their rights and even responsibilities to go to the police. This seems plain to me only now--after exiting the organization and freeing my mind.

    I suppose the intent of my post can be considered self-indulgent. It was hard to be the recipient of strong comments about my having been a horrible person--when in the depth of my heart I truly never understood (at the time) that going to the police was the right thing to do. But I submit that if we can provide a measure of understanding to women who don't turn in rapists or parents who don't turn in pedophiles, we should be able to see how well-intentioned-but-mentally-captive elders might have acted similarly.

    I've been in the process of trying to contact the victims of that pedophile to try and move them to come forward. If they don't, I've decided to contact a law firm that I know will attempt some action. I hope that they, Melanie and everyone else can find the healing they need--and do their part to keep these individuals from acting again.

  • Confession
    Confession

    (Sorry! Double post.)

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