Two witnesses just left my door!!!

TheCoolerKing

Well it took them four years to find me at my current address, but they did it. My bell rang today and guess who it was! I had some time and thought to myself, sure why not. First off, I currently consider myself to be an agnostic. At this point in my life I have no desire to join any religious group, especially not the JWs again! I dont dislike the "average witnesses", I actually feel sorry for them. My problem is with the leaders at the top in NY. They are the ones that are misleading millions and keeping them enslaved in a cult!

So anyway, after their brief, "Hi, we're Jehovah's Witnesses" intro, the two witnesses began to offer me their latest Watchtower & Awake. That's when I put on the brakes. After telling them that my mother is a witness and I had been brought up as one, I saw the smiles on their faces. Their next question, of course, was "why did you leave?" I dont think they were prepared for my answer or my question. So I said, "Primarily, because the elders at my congregation gave me a hard time about attending college. Now, I have a question for you both." I gave them two scriptures from the New Testament. The first was Ephesians 4: 4 - 6 and John 1:1. I said, "Now the Bible here in Ephesians says that we should only have 'ONE faith, ONE baptism and ONE God. However, your version of the Bible has altered John 1:1 to say that the Word 'IS A GOD'. Now if you dont believe in the Trinity, that means that your religion is teaching that Jehovah is ONE God and Jesus is ANOTHER God, right?"

They both were silent for a moment. Then one of the witnesses said, "So you believe in the Trinity now?" And I said, "Well, what does the Bible say? Specifically here in the two scriptures that I just gave you." So the other witness said, "Well, there is only ONE God and that is Jehovah God, the creator of the Earth and all things." I said, "Ok, so why does your version of the Bible say that the Word, who of course is Jesus, is also A God?" Of course neither witness could answer my question, so they just continued to say that there is only one God. They then tried to change the subject to the coming of Armageddon. After about 10 minutes, I guess they figured that they werent gonna get anywhere with me, so they left. I never got an answer to my question either!!!

Anyone else ever have an experience like this? Where the witnesses just couldnt answer a question that you had? And they just tried to keep changing the subject?

Honesty

I call it duckin' and weavin'

JW's are experts

They'll win the Gold medal when it becomes an Olympic Event

Well, they would win the Gold medal if their gods on the Governing Body allowed particpation in pagan sports events.

BFD

I hear that's their M.O. It hasn't happened to me, yet. I think they'll be calling on me soon since I signed up for a free bible study on-line. I will not let them off that easy though. I will pointedly ask them to answer any question I pose before allowing them to change the subject. And if they don't know, I'll ask them to just say, I don't know.

BFD

choosing life

Witnesses always change the subject when they can't or don't want to answer a question. That is what they are taught to do. They came to your door to talk about what they wanted to, not what concerned you.

Right now the main subject is armegeddon.

It is always good to give them something to think about, though. Maybe they will remember your conversation when this scripture comes up again.

TheCoolerKing

It is always good to give them something to think about, though. Maybe they will remember your conversation when this scripture comes up again.

I hope they do think about it. I wish someone had done that for me when I was a witness. I may have left "The Org." sooner!

Tuesday

I had something at work where the witness couldn't answer my question:

http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/6/118872/2090959/post.ashx#2090959

Good Girl or Bad Girl?

Interesting discussion.

So what's the answer to the question? I just read the verse John 1:1 in the NIV Bible and it reads the same way (or am I missing something?)...

"In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God."

TheCoolerKing

So what's the answer to the question? I just read the verse John 1:1 in the NIV Bible and it reads the same way (or am I missing something?)...
"In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God."

That's just it! I was trying to make them think, something every JW is taught not to do. All reputable translations of the Bible show John 1:1 as: "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God."

But the New World Translation, the JW Bible, reads, ""In the beginning the Word was, and the Word was with God, and the Word was a God."

JWs believe that God or Jehovah and Jesus are TWO separate beings. But that is not what the Bible says. The Bible shows that God and Jesus are one and the same. So in an attempt to discredit the divinity of Jesus Christ, the WTS altered their version of the Bible to fit their theology. John 1:1 has always caused a problem for them. So, in order to make Jesus less than God, they altered this verse. But they forgot about the other scriptures, such as Ephesians, which say there is only one God.

Good Girl or Bad Girl?

That's interesting... makes me think. Makes sense. Good work hopefully planting a seed to make them think as well...

Tuesday

I think the way they found an out is by saying you believed in the Trinity now and you had to defend it. I think turning it the other way to have to defend something they really can't defend would be better in making them squirm for instance?

"I heard from someone that your bible promotes multiple Gods?"

I'm sure they'll answer that there's only one God Jehovah

Bring up the Ephesians scripture saying that there is only one God

They'll agree

"Then would you mind explaining to me John 1:1 "THE WORD WAS A GOD", how can the word be a God when the only God is Jehovah?"

If you have another copy of a bible open that scripture to the word was God. I think that would leave them grasping for a way to explain that their translation had inadvertantly given divinity to another God. It's basically remain loyal to the translation of the Bible by the WT, or remain loyal to the years of teaching by the WT. Either way then you'd be able to bring out another Bible with the correct translation and ask questions about how the Word can be God as well.

I dunno, just some thoughts.

Two witnesses just left my door!!!

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