One more newbie, yeiks!

by wings 26 Replies latest jw friends

  • LeslieV
    LeslieV

    Welcome Wings!!!!!! we are so glad that you had the courage to tell your story. Putting voice to what you feel is the beginning of healing. As far as your 2 and 3 year old grandchildren, bring things into their lives the JW's do not allow. Music, art, non-JW friends. Make sure the kids are around family that are not JW's.

    Your husband I am sure realize that you feel the way you do, but not talking about it, you can pretend it doesn't exist. It is the pink elephant in the room that no one is acknowledging.

    I hope your son found the help that he needed. Remember leaving is a process...it took along time to be brainwashed..it takes time to wash your brain free from its influence. Keep coming back.

    Leslie

  • Quandry
    Quandry

    Welcome, and thanks for sharing your story with us.

    The WTS wants able bodied (and mind) folks who are in tip top shape to work, work ,work, and feel guilt because they are not doing more. I recall one young woman in a congregation I was in some years back pioneering with I think three small children, also home schooling them. They were very poor, because of course the dad did cleaning work at night, and they did not own an evil T.V. She would get out of the car, hoist one child onto a carrier on her back, and drag the other two by the hand, going out of course for hours. If she isn't completely used up by now, I would be surprised.

    My husband was WT study conductor for quite some time. That is, of course, after he'd been a P.O. of one congregation, secretary, Ministry School Overseer, and Book study conductor. He began to feel ill, and began having lots of tests done. He found he was diabetic, and had to start taking medicine. This type of medicine can sometimes cause problems, and must be adjusted. He also found his blood pressure was really high, and he needed three different medicines to control it. He also had blood in his urine, and cancerous polyps that had to be dug out.

    In the midst of all this, he was so dizzy from the blood pressure medicine, and having to get used to diabetes he could not work, and could not go to meetings. The elders, of course, carefully evaluated all of this. They then told him he "was not handling his illness correctly." I suppose what they meant was that he should schedule his illness around meetings so that he would not miss them. They took away the WT study from him so that others would not "loose confidence."

    Yep, we could feel the love...........

  • Hortensia
    Hortensia

    "there is no place in the witness society for suffering humanity"

    oh that is so true, and what happened to your son is tragic. I am really sorry for him and for you. You have to put one foot in front of the other and keep functioning, but you don't have to do it the JW way. Look for social services in your area, maybe home visits for your parents (or was it just your mother?) and support groups. I have never met anyone face to face who posts on this forum, but just the same everyone here has been really supportive and it helps a lot.

  • Cellist
    Cellist

    Hi Wings, welcome to the board. I'm glad you found us. Hopefully we can help.

    Cellist

  • freedomloverr
    freedomloverr

    welcome wings.

    what a story. It always amazes me how fast some of us decompress when we start the reading and researching.

    you are on a good path. it sounds like it may have some bumps along the way, but you sound incredibly smart and sensible to handle come what may.

    I truly hope you find the help and encouragement you need here.

    -freedomlover

  • jwfacts
    jwfacts

    Welcome and wow, what a post.

    For the first time in years I feel like I have a direction. Dare I say, hope. Hope I might actually get a life of my own again, a life at all. The answer is so obvious. I need to disassoiate. Have to. I'll explain why later.

    That is how I felt, you dont quite realise how oppressive it is until you free yourself.

    During the years that have followed, I have realized that there is no place in the witness society for suffering humanity. If you are not set up to preform in the system, then you are just there so others can show their forbarence. At a distance I might ad. My only real support during this time came from my non-witness family.

    In Combatting Cult Mind Control Hassan makes this very point about cults. Cults are about growth of the organization, not the individuals, so any follower that is a hinderance to growth is considered a liability and discarded.

  • wings
    wings

    So, I went off to fix dinner for the family, and came back to all of this.

    I was so afraid no one would hear me....as it is you brought me to tears. Thank you so much for being there. I am overwhelmed.

    There is some good news in my story. None of the six kids are in the "truth". My three step kids were the older ones and all baptised when I arrived in their lives. One is disfellowshiped, the other two faded and are gone from the core family. I have kept up with all three, I love them all. My kids were younger and only learned the "truth" through the hipocracy they were shown, especially through the older kids. They never came close to baptism, I would not have let them. My step kids new only how to play the game, which they did brilliantly.

    My son is in a program that is helping him become independent. He is doing well. He had another surgery this last week on his arm.

    I have worked through most of the anger, I hope. I kept the anger so long, it changed me. I am trying to work my way out with forgiveness. Very powerful, forgiveness. Hoping this.....talking to you... is part of that.

    My issue with DA has to do with the FACT that I have become a shell of a person, hollow, worthless, whithout depth, or direction. All because I have been playing dead. I have been doing this for YEARS!!!!!!!!!

    I have lost so much already. At this point the only thing I would loose is 'my life as I know it' (it needs to go) and my husband, whom I love.

    How can you go on with someone who will only ever think of you....know you....as....bound for distruction?

  • junctions-wife
    junctions-wife

    Welcome Wings! Kick your shoes off and stay awhile! Life gets very interesting around these parts.

    Amanda

  • outoftheorg?
    outoftheorg?

    We are gad that you found some solace here with lots of people that understand your position.

    Your satement " that there is no place in the witness society for suffering humanity" sure rang a few bells for me.

    The jw's like to tell the new comers that the wbts will give them a new and better personality.

    Don't forget that you had a previous personality that you can return to. Don't give up on hubby Yet.

    Treat him with even more love and do things together. He just may see and like this new/old personality.

    Best wishes to you.

    Outoftheorg

  • hambeak
    hambeak

    Glad you are here and you will find healing and solice and understanding. Most of us have had to let go of the baggage the wts put on us as well as through our families

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