Demons in my Tupperware?

by Watkins 27 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

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  Watkins

  Hi ya'll - This subject might've been addressed before, but I missed it if it was. My daughter and I were talking the other day about how it's taught by the witnesses that anything one might buy from a yard sale, garage sale, or eBay(lol) - could be 'infected' with demons. When dd was studying, the sister told her a first-person account that a Tupperware bowl she'd bought at a garage sale that supposedly wreaked havoc in her home - she was physically attacked by an incubus-type demon - and it all stopped when she threw away that plastic bowl. I've heard other first-hand accounts of inanimate objects containing demons - in one case it was a dubious magazine that also held an incubis demon. To me, it's all such a load of crap and fear-mongering. In the Bible, demons are said to inhabit people and animals, but if there's an instance of them inhabiting inanimate objects, I guess I've over-looked it. Do demons only bother the superstitious? Can one really trap 'ectoplasm' in a Tupperware bowl? []

  Perhaps the best defense against them is indifference... I don't know. But from the stories I've heard, it seems to be believed by many JWs that the more sincere one is in their worship, the more severe the persecutions from 'the dark side'. Having never been bothered, and being a sincere person - I just don't know what to make of it - other than it's a huge load of crap - lol. In my youth I was exposed to a few people that I now believe were 'possessed' - but none of their demons ever attached themselves to me - in fact, I feel like I must've been protected somehow... but why, I don't know. Why would God protect me, but not protect someone else? Maybe my indifference is the difference and demons are attracted to fear. Weird...

  I've never bought into superstitions, even as a kid. I've heard some wild ones - my ex said that if you watch someone drive away until they're out of sight, it's a bad omen for them - maybe a car accident or something. Well, I purposely put it to the test, rebel that I am, and nothing ever did happen to him... darn. Lol. His folks were from Kentucky and they had so many superstitions about everything it was crazy. My own mom wouldn't let us open an umbrella inside - bad luck -- walk under a ladder? Bad luck on you. Spill salt? Better give some a toss over your shoulder or a pox on you. Break a mirror? Ahhhh - 7 years of bad luck! (well, that might explain some things.... not! lol) And the 'knock on wood' thing - such rubbish for otherwise semi-intelligent people. I just don't get it at all.

  Not believing this stuff was what helped me out of the borg, tho'. When my mother died several years ago, my siblings and I divied-up her belongings and all of a sudden I had a house full of furniture and all my 'share' of Mom's stuff. A pioneer sister told me that maybe my depression was caused by demons attached to her personal belongings. Uh - hello - my mother DIED you dolt - that's why I'm depressed! Idiots. It took me a few munutes after she left to digest what'd been implied - then I was MAD! Mom's old knitting needles had demons? Or maybe - the Tupperware?!!! Aaaaaahhhhhhhhh - run for the KH! It was a definite breaking point for me.

  And now, as an 'apostate', I'm viewed as demonised too. ( I eventually transended the depression, which was WT induced... hmmm... maybe it was demons after all! )

  I thought maybe last week's WT article would say something about the matter, but it didn't. If so many witnesses are besieged with demon problems by buying garage sale kitchen items - why wasn't there any mention in the article?

  If anyone can shed some light on this I'd appreciate it, or - just tell me I'm right and it's a big stinky irrational LOAD!

  ~Watkins~ (of the non-superstitious class)(knock-on-wood) LOL
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  WTWizard

  I believe that indifference is in fact the best defense against demon possession. Why? The Watchtower Society programs people to believe in demons, and that is what causes effects to be taken for demons. Strange noises that are caused by wind or critters are taken for demons. And it's because they are programmed to believe it, so they immediately think "DEMONS!" instead of trying to find out why things are weird.

  No, I don't believe in demons possessing Tupperware. What you do have to worry about is cleanness of the insides. If you buy it secondhand, soaking it in bleach will make sure you don't get exposed to germs (which can cause a lot more damage than demons). Other than that (and making sure it doesn't leak), buying things secondhand is perfectly harmless. Just make sure you are not getting something that has hidden defects--with Tupperware, that is close to impossible.

  Yes I do have a Ouija board. I went out and bought it specifically to slap Jehovah's face. I never had a demon affect that thing. And Ouija boards are said to be the favorite articles for demons to possess; if my Ouija board is not possessed, then Tupperware ought to be quite safe.
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  ButtLight

  Mom's old knitting needles had demons? Or maybe - the Tupperware?!!! Aaaaaahhhhhhhhh - run for the KH! It was a definite breaking point for me.

  For all the Power these so called demons have........why the need to attach to tupperware, when they can just jump right on in your body and posses you!!
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  Scully

  I used to get a bit freaked when I'd put a Tupperware jug filled with juice on the table at breakfast time and it would start sputtering and after a while the top would pop open.

  Then I remembered my physics classes from high school regarding how air contracts when it is cold, and expands as it warms up. Demon attack (and Tupperware abandonment issues) averted!
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  Bumble Bee

  The only demons associated with Tupperware are the ones that host those friggen home parties!! Hated those things!!

  BB
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  greendawn

  This is obviously a JW fixation since out of all the people that buy things second hand they are the only ones complaining about getting demon attacks from them. I could understand them saying that second hand occult objects are dangerous but tupperware that is ridiculous.

  Demon phobia is one of the characteristic traits of the JWs and the org is encouraging it apparently to keep them in fear and subjection. Perhaps they even initiated it by cunningly spreading false rumours. The morbid idea that powerful invisible beings are constantly seeking to drive you mad or kill you must be quite haunting and destructive.
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  Finally-Free

  My Dad used to rent his basement to a guy who drank a lot. He drank so much he eventually couldn't pay his rent, so my Dad evicted him after 2 months of non payment. The night before he moved out he had an eviction party, and my Dad said there was a lot of drinking, screaming, and strange stuff going on. Obviously (to me) demons were involved. The guy lived in his car for a few weeks, and then committed suicide by jumping off the Burlington Skyway.

  When he moved out he had left behind a lot of tools, which my Dad gave to me. One day I was using one of this guy's hammers and hit my thumb. It hurt like hell, and to this day part of my thumb has no feeling. (I never showed it to a doctor because, as everyone knows, doctors and JWs are natural enemies.) Being a JW, I was convinced the hammer had a demon. But it was a damn good hammer, and I liked it a lot. I still have it.

  I'm happy to report there are no strange goings-on in my garage, except for one thing. A half full beer that vanished from my desk a couple of years ago was found in the garage last week. It's empty now. I guess the hammer demon was thirsty.

  W
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  Gregor

  You're right...it's a big, stinky, irrational LOAD. (Do you burp your Tupper?)
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  ButtLight

  A half full beer that vanished from my desk a couple of years ago was found in the garage last week. It's empty now. I guess the hammer demon was thirsty.

  That reminds me of when me and Brooke where ghost hunting in my basement. I lost two beers while we were down there.....granted it was pitch black. Well, yesterday my bf came up with two half bottles of beer from the basement and dumped them in the sink. I ran out of the house and did some upchucking! NEVER let a beer sit for months, and dump it out in your sink!

  Did ya hear of the Jw woman who's neighbor knit her a quilt for her newborn baby? She would put the baby to bed, cover it up, leave and shut the door, and the child would scream. She'd go back in, and the child would quit. After a few times, she flung the door open and the crib was bouncing all around. She got rid of the blanket, and no more demonz! Yep, they like tupperware, and baby blankets!
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  Atlantis

  Tupperware was listed in a "bad light" in 1979 implying dishonest tax practices. The Watchtower said: “Of particular concern to the tax collectors are ‘independent contractors,’ from life-insurance salesmen and phone solicitors to housewives who give Tupperware parties. Awake-1979-March-8-p.27 The Bible’s View Christians and Taxpaying “IT’S TAX TIME—But They Refuse to Pay.” “Unreported Work May Cost U.S. Billions in Taxes.” “Income-Tax Cheating Is on the Rise in Britain.” “Tax Dodging Is a Way of Life in Israel.” These headlines from news items illustrate that reluctance to pay taxes is widespread. How should Christians feel about taxpaying? The Scriptures often mention taxes. Through Moses, God commanded the Israelites to pay certain taxes for the upkeep of the central sanctuary of worship. (2 Chron. 24:6, 9; Ex. 30:12-16; Num. 18:26-29; 31:26-47; Neh. 10:32) When kingship was established in Israel, taxes were imposed for the support of the king, his household and the various governmental officials and servants. (1 Sam. 8:11-17; 1 Ki. 4:6-19) Under foreign domination, the Israelites had to submit to still other forms of taxation. While subject to Persia, for example, each Israelite had to pay a “tribute” that was apparently quite high, since many of the Jews had to borrow money to meet that obligation.—Neh. 5:4. But God never instructed his worshipers to avoid taxpaying. After the establishment of the Christian congregation, the apostle Paul was inspired to write: “Let every soul be in subjection to the superior authorities . . . Render to all their dues, to him who calls for the tax, the tax; to him who calls for the tribute, the tribute.”—Rom. 13:1, 7. This does not mean that Christians must pay more taxes than are required by law. If legislation grants reduced tax rates to individuals or organizations in certain categories, there is nothing Scripturally wrong if those qualified accept such benefits. In recent years, however, it has become increasingly common for people to find ways of paying fewer taxes, or none at all, by fraudulent means. “Among the people who are fudging on their reporting,” notes U.S. News & World Report (March 27, 1978), “are senior citizens supplementing their retirement income, unemployed people picking up odd jobs, and skilled craftsmen who moonlight on the side. Even highly paid professional people duck their full tax obligation by failing to report income from free-lance work.” Newsweek (April 10, 1978) reported: “‘The biggest areas of noncompliance involve waiters, maids, doctors, small shopkeepers and businessmen, workmen and independent craftsmen like plumbers,’ says former IRS commissioner Sheldon Cohen. ‘These are all areas that handle large amounts of small cash payments, and even if checks are given, there’s no record in many cases.’ “Of particular concern to the tax collectors are ‘independent contractors,’ from life-insurance salesmen and phone solicitors to housewives who give Tupperware parties. All are regularly employed, but none are subject to withholding by the companies that pay them. And ifthey choose not to report all orpart of their earnings, it is extremely difficult for the tax men to track them down.” Of course, tax laws differ from country to country and sometimes even from one area to another in the same country. However, a conscientious desire to meet the obligation of taxpaying will motivate Christians to familiarize themselves and comply with tax laws in force where they live. http://m1.freeshare.us/view/?143fs840824.jpg Nevada-