Does A School Yard Bully Attitude Take Over This Discussion Board?

by The wanderer 77 Replies latest jw friends

  • minimus
    minimus

    I always thought The Wanderer was simply trying to emulate the AWAKE! writers.

  • hillary_step
    hillary_step

    Wanderer,

    You have quoted AlanF out of context, a common method used by people in your profession to obscure the truth. I will quote both your own post and the reply of AlanF, which you partially quote above, to display your intellectual dishonesty.

    Your writing ability is impressive, however,
    I think if you could cut down on the information
    regarding your subject material the article would
    get a better response.

    Did you know for example, that you have over 900
    words contained in 43 sentences which in turn are
    contained into 12 paragraphs?

    If you "cut to the chase" there will be more
    participation regarding the subject at hand.

    AlanF replied :

    The wanderer said:

    : I think if you could cut down on the information regarding your subject material the article would get a better response.

    Perhaps, but I try to write for an audience a bit above the level of Austrian Emperor Joseph II, who upon hearing one of Mozart's operas famously observed, "Too many notes, my dear Mozart". To which Mozart replied (at least, in the play Amadeus), "Which few did you have in mind, Majesty?"

    So there, Wanderer, if you have trouble dealing with too much information, I suggest you quit reading here and proceed to something a bit more up your alley, or offer helpful suggestions as to just what words ought to be cut out and just what words ought to be put in place..

    I think Minimus has it about right. You are emulating the 'AWAKE' magazine both in content and style. This magazine frequently and dishonestly cherry-picked quotations to manipulate information to suit its needs, as you have done above.

    HS

  • hillary_step
    hillary_step

    Wanderer,

    Then we may have something in common because
    I have a degree in the same industry as you.

    Yes, you introduce yourself to people by informing them of this. "Hello, I am Wanderer, I have a degree in advertising". However, when you find out that many of us, even those you criticize, have credentials that overwhelm your own, you tend to withdraw from view. Knock it off Wanderer. Your motivation is transparent.

    HS

  • trevor
    trevor

    Ooh! This is starting to look like a school yard fight.

    Scratched knees and cut lips. Torn knickers and tears. Sounds great to me.

    It takes me back to those wonderful days when fighting at school was allowed, even encouraged.

  • Gregor
    Gregor

    Yeah, and even though I'm tempted to jump in and throw a couple of punches I really don't have to. Hillary Step and others are doing fine in cleaning W's clock!

  • Satanus
    Satanus

    Tempted to join in, on alanf's part. But, nah, not needed. Will just say though, that i find it funny that someone would criticise his writing style, not content. Someone would bother to count the words, but not critique the content. Maybe i have a wierd sense of humor, but i find it funny.

    S

  • dilaceratus
    dilaceratus
    "Hello, I am Wanderer, I have a degree in advertising"

    Of course this is a bit hyperbolic-- One who went around saying this sort of thing in public would soon find that it was taken by others as though they'd heard "I have a degree in Homeopathy" or "I am a Theta Clear."

    (Naturally, anyone with the slightest "respect" for the power and complexity of language would object violently when they see words being raped of context, beauty, and meaning by salesmen-- be they politicians, evangelizers, bureaucrats, advertisers, or any other form of pornographer.)

  • The wanderer
    The wanderer

    Dear Hillary Step:

    About this particular quote by Alan F., notice something here.

    Here is part of the quote:

    "...offer helpful suggestions as to just what words ought to be cut out and just what words ought to be put in place.." - Alan F

    In turn, I suggested a book writing for the
    Web: A Practical Guide by Cynthia L. Jeney

    Key Word and Ellipsis

    The key word used is part implying there is more to the quote then suggested.
    In addition, the use of ellipsis before the word offer; again implies there was
    more to the quote.

    To suggest or imply that I deliberately tried to mislead someone is unfair and unacceptable.
    I was pointing out an undisputed written statement of which Alan F. wrote.

    Unemotional Perspective

    In addition, my perspective is removed from that of an individual who is
    emotionally supporting this writer because of his status, education or
    prominence.

    Good Writing Habits

    If you take a close look at the particular article that we are discussing
    it lacks style and format. I think good writing incorporates content,
    etiquette, grammar and style.

    If one or more of these ingredients is missing then I think overall it lacks
    as a good article .

    This ends the issue from my standpoint.

    Respectfully,

    The Wanderer

  • The wanderer
    The wanderer

    Dear Friends:

    The article I wrote contains some incorrect
    XHTML syntax. I cannot figure out what the
    issue is as of right now.

    Respectfully,

    The Wanderer

  • Satanus
    Satanus
    I cannot figure out what the
    issue is as of right now.

    Ok well, when you perfect your posts, you can then work on the posting styles of others.

    S

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