Watching the World- church steeples used for cell phone equipment

by OnTheWayOut 15 Replies latest watchtower bible

  • OnTheWayOut
    OnTheWayOut

    Watching the World (articles at the back of AWAKE! mags) are usually offered
    with no comments. This one is no acception. It is from the April 2007 AWAKE!

    Your comments are welcome on what the dubs are thinking when they read this
    or why WTS printed the article.

    A Use for Church Steeples

    "New England churches [in the United States] have found a solution
    to dwindling budgets: renting their picturesque steeples to wireless
    companies in need of cell sites," says Newsweek magazine. Locations
    for towers that transmit and receive messages from cell phones are
    limited by zoning restrictions in residential areas, and residents do not
    want ugly antennas in their neighborhoods. So cell-phone providers are
    hiding their equipment inside church steeples. The president of one
    consulting firm for churches says: "The first church we did now has
    three carriers in it, and they're getting $74,000 a year for space nobody
    [was] using anyway."

  • OnTheWayOut
    OnTheWayOut

    Same AWAKE! article contains the following:

    The Rich Are Often "Insecure and Troubled"

    "Millionaires feel insecure and troubled," states the Beijing
    newspaper China Daily. A survey was conducted among
    individuals from East China and South China who had an
    average wealth of 2.2 billion yuan ($275 million). The
    researchers, who studied rich people's "attitudes toward
    faith, marriage, life, career and money," found that "a majority
    of the millionaires love and hate money at the same time."
    A number of respondents said that besides social status
    and a sense of accomplishment, "annoyance is the main
    thing money has brought them."

  • choosing life
    choosing life

    I am sure they are trying to make the churches look greedy. They can probably see the lightning bolts hitting those same steeples in their minds.

    Or maybe they are considering this might be a new way to make money in New York?

  • kls*
    kls*
    A number of respondents said that besides social status
    and a sense of accomplishment, "annoyance is the main
    thing money has brought them."

    Oh and we know how the wt loves annoyances $$$$$$$$

  • candidlynuts
    candidlynuts

    the watchtower is probably kickin its own ass for not allowing steeples on the kingdom halls.. 74K x however many kingdom halls there are in the usa is a lotta money they're missing out on!

  • Jourles
    Jourles

    The idea of using church steeples isn't new. There are many towns where zoning laws are very strict and the only places to put antennas are on tops of power transmission lines, rooftops, or steeples. Denver is a great example of a rather large town with tough zoning in action. Although there are a few towers that you run into, for the most part, rooftops are the only alternative. And even then, carriers must stealth the installation. You have to look very closely to see any semblance of an antenna installation.

    I don't see anything wrong in leasing out your property to cell carriers. It helps them provide better coverage and it also puts easy cash back into your wallet. If someone offered to pay your mortgage and then some just by putting up a tower on the back of your property, why not do it? It's a win-win situation.

    But I agree on the WT's likely perspective. They're trying to paint the churches that do this as money grubbing whores that are in cahoots with the cellular carriers. I'm surprised that the WTS doesn't take a clue from this as a way to make money themselves. In many KH locations, they have prime pieces of real estate in rural settings. Ideal for tower placement.

    The dollar sum that was mentioned in the article seems inflated. I would like to see where this quote came from and who said it. Here is how it normally breaks down -- A tower company such as American Tower, SBA, or whoever, approaches a land owner. If zoning allows it and the land owner agrees to it, the tower is built. The land owner pays nothing out of their pocket. The tower company incurs all expenses for building the tower. A brand new site from ground preparation to the actual tower usually runs around $100k-200k. Typically, the tower company already has cell carriers lined up. The tower company leases space on the tower either by carrier mount or per antenna. This scenario is also similar to a church steeple. The tower company would have to structurally strengthen the steeple for its intended use. This can cost a hell of a lot of money as well - amost as much as a brand new tower. In the case of New England with tough zoning restrictions, a tower company can demand a higher premium on antenna placements. They would probably charge in the neighborhood of $1000 per antenna. Figure, on average, 6 antennas per carrier with three carriers and that brings you to ~$216k per year. The church only gets a small percentage of that income. Remember, the tower company did all of the work and paid for everything. They also are the ones responsible for all of the maintenance and upkeep of that installation. The church might see around 10-20%, or ~$20k-40k. That isn't too shabby considering the general public probably cannot see anything on the steeple and that nothing from it makes any noise that would interrupt church services.

    Yeah, the WTS is just jealous.

  • OnTheWayOut
    OnTheWayOut

    WTS reports dwindling budgets and deparate measures.

    This contributes to the "waters drying up" doctrines.

    It doesn't hurt to make them look greedy, either.

    What about the miserable millionaires?

  • why144000
    why144000

    In Australia at least one Kingdom Hall has rented out land space to Telstra to have a mobile phone antenna on site. They charged Telstra around $10,000 per year. After tax changes in 2000 they would have had to pay Goods and Services Tax on the income so they changed the payment into a 'donation'. Pot,Kettle!

  • Stealth453
    Stealth453

    The watchwankers are just pi$$ed they didn't think of it first.

    So, in true watchwanker fashion...they demonize it.

  • MidwichCuckoo
    MidwichCuckoo
    The president of one
    consulting firm for churches says: "The first church we did now has
    three carriers in it, and they're getting $74,000 a year for space nobody
    [was] using anyway."

    so the Church is getting 'money for nothing' - lol, bet the WTBTS is beating itself. Another spin is that the CHURCHES are helping the local community by both improving communications AND helping mask unsightly transmitters. They deserve the 'rental'.

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