Do you still pray/talk to yourself like you used to?or wish very hard? (page 3)

Satanus

I operate my thoughts on the premise that we are all subconsciously connected, and we get what we want (more or less) and we subconsciously want what we get. When i want something, i focus on that connection and on what i want. It seems to work. I still have to grab it when it comes along. The negatives in my subconscious are a little harder to deal w.

When i see some beautiful aspect of nature; a sunset, trees, flowers, whatever, my reaction is 'ahh', as i recognise directly the spirit and the universe, and my own spiritual connection w it. Mumbo jumbo, i guess.

S

nvrgnbk

I operate my thoughts on the premise that we are all subconsciously connected, and we get what we want (more or less) and we subconsciously want what we get. When i want something, i focus on that connection and on what i want. It seems to work. I still have to grab it when it comes along. The negatives in my subconscious are a little harder to deal w.

When i see some beautiful aspect of nature; a sunset, trees, flowers, whatever, my reaction is 'ahh', as i recognise directly the spirit and the universe, and my own spiritual connection w it. Mumbo jumbo, i guess.

Yes to all of that Satanus.

If it's mumbo jumbo, sign me up!

blondie

You know, Crumpet, they have a saying around here:

Of course, I talk to myself, it's the only way to have an intelligent conversation.

Love, Blondie

PS still going to Las Vegas some time?

Blondie

Crumpet

Hey Blondie - I'm sure irreverent is gonna have to spank you for that!

Las Vegas - well definitely not this year. I've kind of fallen in love with Dallas and some of its very special inhabitants and some not but who came over anyway. So I am in Dallas from 26 December to 3 Jan an hoping to have a bit of a fest on new years eve at hemp lovers for anyone who wants to come. If I come into money - you can bet I'll be over that way though - sadly this seems unlikely! Maybe I should wish very hard - it worked last time - 8 years ago. I'd come back from Las Vegas and I loved it so much and just America in general that I wished for month and months that I could go again even though I didnt have a salary that would allow so. And then I won a competition with Marlboro cigarettes and a trip to anywhere in America so I choose Las Vegas of course. In fact thats what I was thinking of when I posted this thread.

I operate my thoughts on the premise that we are all subconsciously connected, and we get what we want (more or less) and we subconsciously want what we get. When i want something, i focus on that connection and on what i want. It seems to work. I still have to grab it when it comes along. The negatives in my subconscious are a little harder to deal w.

When i see some beautiful aspect of nature; a sunset, trees, flowers, whatever, my reaction is 'ahh', as i recognise directly the spirit and the universe, and my own spiritual connection w it. Mumbo jumbo, i guess.

S

Satanus - I am of a like mind! If you ever get a chance read the book Mutant Message From Down Underhand which is about aborigines and their ancient ability to communicate through thought across many many miles. Its a beautiful book and will add structure and essence to your lovely ideas which I share.

bernadette

I operate my thoughts on the premise that we are all subconsciously connected, and we get what we want (more or less) and we subconsciously want what we get. When i want something, i focus on that connection and on what i want. It seems to work. I still have to grab it when it comes along. The negatives in my subconscious are a little harder to deal w.

When i see some beautiful aspect of nature; a sunset, trees, flowers, whatever, my reaction is 'ahh', as i recognise directly the spirit and the universe, and my own spiritual connection w it. Mumbo jumbo, i guess.

S

Yeah crumpet, me too like mind as you and satanus. The beauty of the subconscious connection is that there is a lot of wisdom and tranquility to relax into. Nature inspires peace and beauty, but of course there is a lot of competing for survival going on at a seen and unseen level in nature - but its overall effect inspires trust and confidence in the present, the future and also the past. That's an interesting book you referred too, may read it one day. Have just finished reading Mind into Matter by Fred Alan Wolf. Quantum Physics made easy, think am gonna have to read it a few times though , but that's no prob because it is very interesting. bernadette

jaguarbass

So before "they" take me away: do you still find you talk to yourself in your head when you see things of especial beauty that might previously have inspired a prayer of thanks (and maybe still do - don't worry I am over with the castigation of the religious, for now!)?

Have you ever wished or prayed for something really hard and its happened

I hardly find myself praying anymore. I feel kind of empty.

I have prayed for things and gotten them.

And I have prayed for things and not gotten them.

I guess my chances would have been 50/50 either way. If there is a God he has 3 options, yes, no, or latter. If there is no God their are 3 possibilites, yes, no, or latter.

hemp lover

When I used to pray, I never felt like I was talking to myself. There was always that Someone who was hopefully listening. So now my internal dialogues are usually conversations with another "person", sometimes a person I know irl and sometimes an imaginary friend I've had for five years or so. (Actually I don't really talk to my imaginary friend because we exist in parallel universes and have never met "irl" in my head, if you know what I mean.) Or I'll try to solve problems of my own making, like lately I've been working on how to build a bridge across the Atlantic. And also, if I owned a buffalo, could I ride him to work on the Tollway if I velcro'ed my tolltag to his forehead?

Okay, I think I may be the one who needs the white coats.

As far as being appreciative about nature and such, I can't recall ever praying in gratitude for stuff like that. I just enjoy in silence, without words, inside or out.

If you ever get a chance read the book Mutant Message From Down Underhand which is about aborigines and their ancient ability to communicate through thought across many many miles.

I love your eclectic taste in books - definitely have to check this one out.

Crumpet

Or I'll try to solve problems of my own making, like lately I've been working on how to build a bridge across the Atlantic.

Any progress at all on this honey?

diamondblue1974

So before "they" take me away: do you still find you talk to yourself in your head when you see things of especial beauty that might previously have inspired a prayer of thanks (and maybe still do - don't worry I am over with the castigation of the religious, for now!)?

I have always held the firm belief that the closer we are to nature, the closer we are to divinity; whether that be Goddess, God or some other higher being; the internal dialogue you mention is actually quite natural and nothing to be concerned with, in fact you should develop it and treasure the results.

Gary

diamondblue1974

Another point that came to mind as I was sending this message is that Satanus is spot on with his comments about everything being ultimately connected and the fact is that many nature based spiritualities have this philosophy. For me, the divine, nature and ourselves are one and are ultimately connected to each other. For some the connection is deeper and they are more aware of it, for some they are blissfully unaware of it and choose not to even look.

I no longer pray in the Christian sense but commune with the divine which is predominantly what I believe you are achieving when you have this 'internal dialogue' you describe - whether you are aware of it is a different matter.

Our will (or wishes) if strong enough can create physical results but you have to work with it physically as well as spiritually. To coin a rather poor joke, it is no good praying to win the lottery if you dont buy a bloody ticket.

Its funny but I have always held such beliefs but our environment as JWs prevented us from achieving the ultimate balance of caring for our every physical,emotional and spiritual need. Its no surprise then why many ex fundamentalist Christians turn to neo paganism as a means of achieving this balance and ultimate awareness of their connection to that above and below.

Just a few thoughts matey

G

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