Intelligence of Witness Material

by choosing life 37 Replies latest jw friends

  • mcsemike
    mcsemike

    I was a book study conductor for several years. I found the studies excruciatingly boring. First, if you study as a family for the WT, you will have the paragraph read by your wife or kid. Then you ask the question and someone answers it. You look up every scripture even though you know what it says. The answer is always "textbook" correct as someone said.

    Then you go to the meeting and if I was the reader, I had to read it again. Then you listen to the parrots read the answer, sometimes even having someone read the ENTIRE paragraph as his answer. Even if the person put it in his own words, if the article was boring, everyone died a second death. And maybe the conductor would elaborate or highlight a point that everyone already understood, further adding to the brain numbing.

    At the end of the study, there were a few review questions, where everyone had to hear the question/answer thing AGAIN!! To add to the repetition, the brother saying the closing prayer might include a comment about some "new light" that we all learned in the WT study and thanking God (the FDS) for this great "gift".

    THEN, some pioneer might start a discussion in the car going out in service about a new point learned that day. That would start more comments. And if the WT article was part one of two or three articles on the subject, you had to review what was learned the week before.

    So you might end up discussing something 7 or 8 times before it finally died. And the irony might be that the "new light" wasn't understood or agreed with by many/most people because it was just another flip-flop (again). It was sheer agony.

    Dumbing down? I'd say the studies were at a third grade level. Even new people would leave after the talk or tell me after the WT study that it was boring and "how did we tolerate it"? Heavy meds might help. It's no wonder that most people I was ever in service with would place the Awake mag. on top of the WT, since the WT had nothing of use in it for the public. (And usually for any JW either.)

    What a waste of good trees!!

  • Brain Dead
    Brain Dead

    Not very and it always has been that way, remember good JWS. don't go to collage or university, de-tuning personal intellect is part of their programing

    if post secondary education was supported they would risk loosing employees /slaves and publishing hours

    The specific wording they used regarding universities is that they are godless and immoral places, again using applied fear to control the followers.

  • LtCmd.Lore
    LtCmd.Lore

    It's psychotic! They write this stuff using language intended to draw in smart people, they use words like 'indolent', 'decadent' and 'dealcoholized'.

    But the actual information is designed for brain-dead toddlers. EX: "Question 4a: How do true Christians differentiate the difference in detecting the definite un-similarities between the personified verbalizing donkey in Jehovah Gods message the Holy Bible and the relatively similar yet fictional anthropomorphic donkey in the mythologically contrived motion picture Shrek?"

    Basically the information is written smart on the surface, but in context it's vapid, insensate, puerile and especially fatuous.

    Lore (That was kind of fun...)

  • choosing life
    choosing life

    It seems to me that each study book they put out for studying with new ones is written a little less intelligently than the last one. I studied in the truth book. Then they put out the paradise book with lots of pictures and less need for intelligent thought. I studied this with several people.

    Now they have the bible teach book?, which I would say is about on a 3rd grade level. I studied that with a few people. I was actually embarrassed by this book. On top of that, a lot of the rules were barely touched on. I think it is quite deceptive.

    I had only one study in the brochure they used to start studies in. I can't remember the name at present, but it was in about 2 page little chapters. They covered everything like giving up holidays, blood and all the objectionable material in just 1 or 2 of these little chapters. And they expected people to make major changes just because they said it was bad. I never used that brochure again, it was so poorly written.

    Even their "deep" studies were dumbed down and often just nonsense dressed up to look smart. I really wonder what people must think when they read this drivel for the first time.

  • LtCmd.Lore
    LtCmd.Lore
    And the irony might be that the "new light" wasn't understood or agreed with by many/most people because it was just another flip-flop (again). It was sheer agony.

    And there you have it. The watchtower has been dummed down because the average witness can't understand what they're talking about.

    We have this 80-ish year old woman in our hall, and she can't answer the question right no matter what the topic is... just today when they asked the question about what blessings you receive for working your butt off serving Jehovah the WTS: She went off on some rant about how only one of her daughters is still a dub and all her other children left and stuff... THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH ANYTHING!

    It's painfull listening to all the adults reading the stuff word for word out of the paragraph, and all the children (who can talk tottally normal any other time.) attempting to mimick their parents who are whispering in their ear during the comment.

    Speaker: "So how does reading gods word help us? Little Brother Kidd."

    Mom:"Light"

    Child: "eight"

    Mom: "Too"

    Child: "..."

    Mom: "TOO" (Whispering loud enough that you could hear her even if she wasn't 2 inches from the mic.)

    Child: "tuouo"

    Mom: "Our"

    Child: "aaaargh"

    Mom: "Foot"

    Child: "fu ught"

    Speaker: "I'm sorry could you say that once more in the microphone."

    Child: "Eight twuou argh fubar"

    Entire congregation giggles because it's SOO cute.

    Speaker: "That's right a light to our foot, very good! Does anyone else have a comment? Sister Pete."

    Sister Pete: "Gods word is a light to our foot."

    Speaker: "Thank you Sister Pete, does anyone ELSE want to repeat that? Brother Oldehieghmer"

    Brother Oldehieghmer: "According to Psalms 119: 105 Gods word is a light to our foot and a lamp to our roadway."

    Speaker: "Thank you, let's read paragraph 2, oh wait, first can I get a reader for Psalms 119: 105?"

    Me: AARRGGHH STFU!!!

    Speaker: "That's right, gods word is a light to argh foot."

    I can't wait until I never have to go to a meeting again... They can't be healthy...

    Lore

  • Highlander
    Highlander

    Lore,

    That is some funny Sh$t !!!

    It's even funnier, knowing that it's completely true.

    The WT lesson is taught at a preschool level and format.

    Again, that was some funny Sh@t!!,

    Anyone else like to comment?

    Brother Highlander: Yes, we can see that is some really, funny, Shit!

  • blondie
    blondie

    The WTS has been more and more preaching to the lowest common denominator in the Borg. Don't want anyone to misunderstand the "food" from the "slave." Or miss the point.

    Remember "simplify" or "simple" are good concepts in the WT jargon. Simple until they are trying to backtrack a doctrine gone awry.

    Blondie

  • justhuman
    justhuman

    Intelligence!!!! You must be joking!!!

    I was wondering how could I manage to stay there all this years. When I was condacting the Book Study or the Watchtower study it was one of the most boring things. Specially at the age of 33 when I finally realize that WT it is a cult.

    I would try to make it as I could more interesting, and not much boring to the brothers and sisters. But it was hopeless. You just can't turn those Wt craps into something better...

    When they had the Revalation Book (the last time) it was really a HELL. All this meaningless staff. The conventions back in the 20's that supposed to be a fullfilment of the Revelation Prophesy, and most of the material had to do with life and times of Judge Booze Jo!!!

    Boy how come and they listen to that staff...it is just amazing, and they are all gratefull of the quality of their spiritual food!!!

    How can they claim that they are reading the Bible, but the reading it is through the WT puplications and explanations that comes from a banch of uneducated old guys living in Brooklyn!!! You read the paragraph, the question is according to the material, and you have to answer accordingly.

    That is why all the jw's kids hate watchtower study, and all of their meetings.

  • Good Girl or Bad Girl?
    Good Girl or Bad Girl?
    mcsemike:
    At the end of the study, there were a few review questions, where everyone had to hear the question/answer thing AGAIN!! To add to the repetition, the brother saying the closing prayer might include a comment about some "new light" that we all learned in the WT study and thanking God (the FDS) for this great "gift".

    I have worked so hard to put all of this out of my mind, as I sometimes feel as though I could blame my complete lack of ability to focus and understand something intelligent without reading it aloud or having no outside distractions to a lifetime of "studying" the WT drivel... but this comment from you, mcsemike, made me remember the REVIEW questions at the end of the study and how those were my favorite to answer because I could put them into my own words at least a little bit.

    I used to write my own comments for the review questions, of course the material came from the paragraph but I would try really hard to write it into my own words. Which was sometimes hard because of the CONVOLUTED way in which the WTS writers put together the sentences and paragraphs! No wonder some people had to read the entire paragraph in order to answer the question! It's just like the first post Lore made with the question 4A - that convoluted sentence structure was right on, Lore!

  • Good Girl or Bad Girl?
    Good Girl or Bad Girl?

    Lore:

    Speaker: "So how does reading gods word help us? Little Brother Kidd."

    Mom:"Light"

    Child: "eight"

    Mom: "Too"

    Child: "..."

    Mom: "TOO" (Whispering loud enough that you could hear her even if she wasn't 2 inches from the mic.)

    Child: "tuouo"

    Mom: "Our"

    Child: "aaaargh"

    Mom: "Foot"

    Child: "fu ught"

    Speaker: "I'm sorry could you say that once more in the microphone."

    Child: "Eight twuou argh fubar"

    Entire congregation giggles because it's SOO cute.

    Speaker: "That's right a light to our foot, very good! Does anyone else have a comment? Sister Pete."

    Sister Pete: "Gods word is a light to our foot."

    Speaker: "Thank you Sister Pete, does anyone ELSE want to repeat that? Brother Oldehieghmer"

    Brother Oldehieghmer: "According to Psalms 119: 105 Gods word is a light to our foot and a lamp to our roadway."

    Speaker: "Thank you, let's read paragraph 2, oh wait, first can I get a reader for Psalms 119: 105?"

    Me: AARRGGHH STFU!!!

    Speaker: "That's right, gods word is a light to argh foot."

    I can't wait until I never have to go to a meeting again... They can't be healthy...

    Lore

    I second "Brother Highlander's" comment - this was some funny sh@t, Lore! AND SO TRUE too!

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