by flipper 27 Replies latest watchtower child-abuse
I met Pat Garza several years ago, and she talked about her "experience" but it didn't have the clear ring of truth, if you get my drift.
She was quite unstable and drifted in and out of reality. I think she was delusional, having hallucinations or something of that sort.
I never gave her story any credibility.
Seeker,
This line is odd: "It is interesting that when alive Pat Garza alleged that when a District Overseer in Los Angeles, the Watchtower Society boss Ted Jaracz molested her and other kids in a Satanic, ritual manner,...
Just to clarify, Pat Garza alleged that, back when Jaracz was serving as a District Overseer in LA, he molested her and others...
I'm not saying that I believe or disbelieve her claims, I just wanted to make it clear what the original poster was trying to say.
No Apologies
I'm with Mulan on this one; as much as I dislike Jaracz, I wouldn't accuse him of something like this without better evidence. Harmful to the cause.
Randy
Over on Channel C, amazing states he is privy to much of the details of some of these settled cases. He also states he is writing a book about it. He says there are some in the know who are not covered by the gag order.
Whats "Channel C?????????? JK
Uhhmmmmm.okay.I don't know how to put this in a polite, p.c. way.....so I'll just say it. I'm a parent of a beautiful little one. If anyone..I don't give a rat's a@@ who.....touched my child in an improper manner.believe me.the last thing that individual would have to fear is a judicial committee...........THEY WOULD NOT LIVE THE NEXT DAY! I have a hard time fathoming that there are 7000.... ..scratch that because you'd generally have ta times that by two..........14,000 parents out there who would just bow their heads, and say."oh well.there weren't two witnesses so i guess you're sh!$ out of luck junior...... i think this whole subject makes me sick..........are they sooooooo blind that they would basically..symbolically .sacrifice their children to their beliefs...????? I never .in all my frikkin' 20 some odd years in the org. knew anyone sooooo spineless....... maybe I'm just lucky. either this is a commentary on mankind in general?........or on people's lack of justice.be it by govt. hand.or a pissed off parent......... would you stand for this ?????????? oh.the elders been reassigned.oh the elders moved.oh blah blah blahh........ know what?.part of me thinks this is just another sue happy episode..the other part.really feels like shit if a parent just would let go of such a situation...... so I gotta go with this........there are alot of people looking for a buck..and even more people looking ta back em if'n that bucks made off an org that they have disdain for........I hope for all our sakes I'm wrong.
Passive Suicide- Mr. Flipper here. I totally agree with your sentiments on child abuse. My 3 kids are in early 20's now. If anyone had ever tampered with them and I found out, I would be in prison now because of going after the perpetrators. Nobody exposing this molestation issue with the witnesses is out for a buck . Silent Lambs has good motives for exposing this sick stuff. Do yourself a favor and order the vhs tape of the 2002 Dateline program detailing some actual abuse victims of the witnesses, and you'll see this is an extremely serious issue, not to be taken lightly. Check with silent lambs.org to order. Watching it I had tears for these victims, it opened my eyes even more. Mary- In regards to the 200 Russian annointed, I don't have any written verification, but talked personally for 10 minutes on the phone with Bill Bowen of Silent Lambs. He told me this on the phone about the Russian annointed giving support to the Silent Lambs cause. Perhaps you might get a hold of him to verify
dude, you know i'd take a flight to hawaii if that was the case to help you if anyone pulled shit on your daughter.....you know i'd be completely useless for two days when i get there from teh xanax high to even get on a plane and i might be so scared to get back on a flight that i'd have to shack up with you for the rest of my life in hawaii, but we'd take care of any situation, our own version of a judicial committee. and just like them, above the law, keep it in the family, open a taco stand near the LOST location shooting w/ the meat of the transgressor....hurly would be our best customer....'wow, i've never tasted tacos so good, what are you guys using?'
'his name was steve'.
