She said she already heard it at her convention in Dekalb, Illinois - so either it was the same speaker or someone who copied off him or it was in the outline.
Unreal! The speaker at our convention is currently serving as a CO for Washington Circuit #1. His last name is Lau, Lowl, or something like that. Perhaps you wife has this info in her notes? Then we could verify if it the same individual.
Regards,
Justitia