Dateline predators will NOT be prosecuted

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  • candidlynuts
    candidlynuts

    Texas DA Won't Prosecute Any Pedophiles Nabbed in NBC 'Predator' Show

    Thursday, June 28, 2007

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    MURPHY, Texas — A sting in which police teamed up with " Dateline NBC " to catch online pedophiles was supposed to send a flinty-eyed, Texas-style warning about this Dallas suburb: Don't mess with Murphy.

    Instead, it has turned into a fiasco.

    One of the 25 men caught in the sting — a prosecutor from a neighboring county — committed suicide when police came to arrest him. The Murphy city manager who approved the operation lost his job in the ensuing furor.

    And the district attorney is refusing to prosecute any of the men, saying many of the cases were tainted by the involvement of amateurs.

    "Certainly these people should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law, but the fact that this was all done for television cameras raises some questions," said Mayor Bret Baldwin.

    It is the first time in nine "Dateline NBC: To Catch a Predator" stings across the country in the past year and a half that prosecutors did not pursue charges.

    "Dateline" has made prime-time entertainment out of contacting would-be child molesters over the Internet, luring them to a meeting place, and videotaping their humiliating confrontations with reporter Chris Hansen .

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    Dateline works with an activist group called Perverted Justice , which supplies adults who troll Internet chat rooms, posing as underage boys and girls, and try to collect incriminating sex talk.

    City manager Craig Sherwood approved such an operation in this well-to-do community of 11,000 after being approached by "Dateline" and Perverted Justice, but he never informed the mayor or the City Council. He said secrecy was necessary for the sting to be effective.

    Over four days in November, 24 men were arrested at a two-story home in one of Murphy's newer neighborhoods after allegedly arranging to meet boys or girls there.

    Some other suspects contacted Perverted Justice decoys online but never showed up at the house. Among them was Louis Conradt Jr., an assistant prosecutor from neighboring Kauffman County, who allegedly engaged in a sexually explicit online chat with an adult posing as a 13-year-old boy.

    As police knocked at his door and a "Dateline" camera crew waited in the street, Conradt shot himself.

    His sister, Patricia Conradt, told the City Council that police acted as "a judge, jury and executioner that was encouraged by an out-of-control reality show."

    Then, last month, Collin County District Attorney John Roach dropped all charges. He said that in 16 of the cases, he had no jurisdiction, since neither the suspects nor the decoys were in the county during the online chats.

    As for the rest of the cases, he said neither police nor NBC could guarantee the chat logs were authentic and complete.

    "The fact that somebody besides police officers were involved is what makes this case bad," said Roach, who was informed of the sting in advance but did not participate. "If professionals had been running the show, they would have done a much better job rather than being at the beck and call of outsiders."

    As details of the suicide emerged, Murphy's mayor, City Council and most of its residents learned for the first time that potential molesters were being luring to their city. Many were furious.

    "They can chase predators all they want, but they shouldn't do it in a populated area with children, two blocks from an elementary school," said Lisa Watson, 33, who lives down the road from the sting house and has three children and another on the way.

    Bryan Whorton, who lives with his wife and baby across the street from the house, said his neighborhood was put in danger. Cars sped up and down the street and police sprinted from hiding spots, guns drawn, to arrest suspects, he said. One suspect dropped a bag of crack, Whorton said.

    "This is a family community. It didn't look kosher at all," he said.

    Two weeks ago, the City Council voted to buy out the city manager's contract for $255,000.

    NBC's Hansen said Murphy is the only place the show has encountered such resistance.

    "I don't want to get involved in the DA's business or the police business," he said. "I can tell you in the other locations, these issues did not come up."

    Eric Nichols, a Texas deputy attorney general, said that when law enforcement authorities pull an Internet sex sting, officers posing as decoys follow strict rules. Detailed chat logs are kept to ensure that "sex talk" is initiated by the potential predator. That way, a defendant cannot claim entrapment.

    Eric Chase, a defense attorney specializing in sex crimes, said stings are the job of police, not TV crews. "Police should not be abdicating a very important function to either private organizations or entertainment organizations," he said.

  • bikerchic
    bikerchic

    Wow what a crazy mess!

    Is this the same fiasco that Nina (cruzanheart) was in the news story on TV? Seems like it is as they are from Murphy.

  • poppers
    poppers

    "Is this the same fiasco that Nina (crusinheart) was in the news story on TV? Seems like it is as they are from Murphy."

    Yup.

  • bikerchic
    bikerchic
    Yup.

    Yup......gulp!

  • neverendingjourney
    neverendingjourney

    I don't have a problem with these types of stings at all so long as the police don't initiate the sexual talk or encourage it. In fact, there should be more of them. However, I think there is a big problem when this type of perversion is made out to be entertainment. The voyeuristic element creeps me out. I don't think it's good for society. That kind of thing should be between law enforcement and the criminals. I never watch those shows, by the way.

  • cruzanheart
    cruzanheart

    Here's what I posted on the other thread:

    I am so incredibly pissed off over this!!! I live in Murphy and I was one of the ones who stood up before the City Council praising the police for their actions in initiating the sting operation. A bunch of holier-than-thou snobby people decided that their neighborhood was too good for this sort of thing and they didn't want any icky people around, even though TWO of the guys arrested LIVE in Murphy. Oh, but this sort of thing doesn't happen in OUR neighborhood. Yeah, right.

    The hubbub escalated because our current mayor wants an excuse to get rid of the City Manager (got his wish) and the police chief (still working on it) and he jumped on this as an opportunity to grandstand about it. As a result, the whole thing got more publicity than usual and now the Collin County Prosecutor is washing his hands of the whole thing. I'm sure it didn't help that the guy they went to arrest at his home shot himself with TV cameras rolling outside his house. His sister showed up at the City Council meeting calling her brother's death murder, completely ignoring the fact that her beloved brother had been sending naked pictures of his naughty bits to what he thought was a 13-year-old boy.

    The Murphy Police, as far as I can tell, did nothing different than the police in the California, Florida and Georgia stings, and a lot of convictions resulted from those stings.

    And two of the vociferous soccer moms got themselves elected to the City Council on the strength of their sanctimonious prattle, ousting a couple of really decent people. Ain't nothin' like small town Texas politics! Never a dull moment.

    Nina

  • bikerchic
    bikerchic

    The Murphy Police, as far as I can tell, did nothing different than the police in the California, Florida and Georgia stings, and a lot of convictions resulted from those stings.

    And two of the vociferous soccer moms got themselves elected to the City Council on the strength of their sanctimonious prattle, ousting a couple of really decent people. Ain't nothin' like small town Texas politics! Never a dull moment.

    Nina

    There ya go! Hey Nina I still have you taped on a CD!

    Damn small town politics!

  • frankiespeakin
    frankiespeakin

    What dateline and the police did was entrapment, which is suppose to be against the law.

  • smellsgood
    smellsgood

    "What dateline and the police did was entrapment, which is suppose to be against the law."

    Who the hell cares? These were pervs INTENT on RAPING CHILDREN. Entrap the hell out of them I say, get them before they ruin childrens lives. I have two lil bro and sis, and these guys would solicit them. I say castrate them and throw them in the Atlantic. Sickos

    Stupid county screw them, most of the time it is against the law to solicit a child online, even if it really ends up being an adult, in most cases intent was established by the perp.

    Screw that.

  • smellsgood
    smellsgood

    "The fact that somebody besides police officers were involved is what makes this case bad," said Roach, who was informed of the sting in advance but did not participate. "If professionals had been running the show, they would have done a much better job rather than being at the beck and call of outsiders."

    In every show I've seen except the first, the police were involved from start to finish, making the arrest right at the house. It's just all political b.s. let's get justice not wax and moan about procedure this and that.

    The police departments around the country clearly aren't putting forward a worthwhile effort. Entrapment? How else are you supposed to get pervs trolling online intent on raping children then to pose as one? Hope that one of them gets the address wrong, lands at a police station instead and turns in his chat log? It's a straightforward way. Or should we just wait until the actual 12 year old child gets sexually tortured by a fifty six year old trucker, and perhaps reports it?

    Red tape red tape red tape red tape

    I say those shows are not only informative, you don't wanna believe you live in a world where this happens, but this is a big wake up call for parents. The show has provided good evidence for parents to educate and monitor their children. The shame factor by being broadcast on National television is also terrific, not only for the fact that those men's dirty ass selves will be humiliated to a greater degree, but it has probably been a deterent (although lots of idiots on the shows will say they'd seen a TCAP) to pervs trying to set up a meeting to assault and abuse a minor. So cheers to that. I think it's fantastic.

    If you go on pervertedjustice you can read the chatlogs yourself, it's beyond evil. One in particular was extremely chilling. Thank God that deranged psychopath was chatting with a decoy and not an actual child.

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