JW Private Investigator Inc

by sparrow 11 Replies latest jw experiences

  • sparrow
    sparrow

    There has been a few posts regarding happy marriages and the 2 witness rule which reminded me of an experience you might find funny. I'd like to know if anyone else has done anything like this...

    There was a married couple with 3 kids in our cong. He was an MS but a nasty piece of work. Verbally abused her and the kids, heavily into hardcore porn and towards the end physically abused her (and had the worst breath). She was the nicest person and the kids were awesome. However the elders always stuck up for him and never believed her. She spent years with this until she finally got the courage to leave.

    Anyway, he moved interstate (Queensland) and "supposedly" moved in with another woman although never admitted it when asked. The 2 witness rule applied and the elders still would stand up for him. This went on for years. He would not allow her a scriptural divorce and wanted control over her life. The children had to spend some holidays with him but the elders would not accept what the kids said as they were too young and he denied it.

    My father and another ex-elder decided to do something. (Our families were pretty close) I had a trip to Queensland so they organised me to go earlier, got me a video camera, hired a blue van with curtains and I got the address and a mudmap off the kids of where he was living with this "other woman". Plan was simple - video them going into the apartment, stay the night in the van and film them in the morning.

    He knew me (I had even worked on the mag counter with him) so I had to be careful. You can imagine me in suburbia, sitting in the back of a van, video camera through the curtains, freaking out thinking one of the neighbours was going to knock on the van. I first filmed him leaving to get groceries. He drove past the van and looked at it. I then filmed them come back and go in together. I put a hat on, sunglasses and quickly walked through the complex trying to film (with commentary) where they had gone in, tried to film the number plate, still freaking out he was going to see me.

    In the morning she came out early and took off in her car before I go the camera started - I missed it on film but saw it. He left later.

    The funny bit - I went to Mcdonalds for breakfast as I was damn tired spending the night in a van. As I was eating you wouldn't believe who walked in - He did! He saw me, got his breakfast and ate with me. I had to make up an excuse that I just drove up to visit my mother while the big blue van was in the carpark that was sitting out the front of his place for the past 18 hours.

    The not so funny bit - My video work was crap. I hardly got any evidence to prove he was living their with her and the elders still would not give her grounds for a scriptual divorce even with my "signed" testimony. On top of this I had breakfast with the enemy.

    The moral - don't ever hire me as a PI - I suck. There is a happy ending though - she left the org including the kids, she is happily married and we still piss ourselves laughing about my pathetic attempt to free her from slavery...

    -sparrow

  • helncon
    helncon

    HAHAHAHAHAHA,

    Good on ya.

    Remind me not to hire you as an investigator...lol

    Could you keep a straight face when chatting to him at maccas?

    I hope you left heaps later when he left not to cause any suspicion of the blue van.

    I am glad this woman was able to get away from him and start a new life.

    Helen

  • Marcel
    Marcel

    gestapo Oo
    ive never thought of something like this.

    a really funny story, though :-D

  • truthsearcher
    truthsearcher

    As humerous as your inabilities are as a PI (the stuff that sticoms are made of), there is something so sad and twisted about the elders inability or unwillingness to accept testimony regarding the husband's behaviour. Methinks that the apostle Paul would have been writing them a letter (ala 1 Corinthians)

    BTW, the Mormons, according to Martha Beck in "Leaving the Saints" have ex FBI men on their "strengthening the congregation" division, who are adept at wire tapping, surveillance, etc.

  • emptywords
    emptywords

    Good work....did you give the evidence in her defence???? what happened?

  • bluebell
    bluebell

    lmao that is sooo funny

    also quite sad that you had to stoop to those levels and still not be believed!

    I'm glad that she got out in the end.

  • Nellie
    Nellie

    This kind of stuff has been going on for years . . .

  • MadTiger
    MadTiger

    I have done a few "cases," too. Hahaha


    5 of them.

    4 Witnesses and my best friend/cousin.


    People just kept approaching me to "help." I guess I put off the vibe that I am into that stuff (I AM!!!)


    I will say this -- most suspicions are founded. Find out for your peace of mind, at least. Every last one of the ladies was guilty. (My female friends have never retained my services in these areas.)

    LOL at the close call at Mickey D's.

  • Bonnie_Clyde
    Bonnie_Clyde

    When my son's first wife separated, she admitted to him over the phone that she committed adultery. My son taped her confession and played it to the elders. When they questioned her about it, she told them that she lied to our son and they believed her. So another elder suggested to our son that they stake out her apartment. They saw her boyfriend in her apartment at 2 p.m.--the curtains were open, and they took their testimony to the elders. Too bad that they had to go to such lengths.

    Three years later our son started dating his ex-girlfriend from high school days. She and her parents had been living out of state but had moved back into the area. Of course, the elders had to determine if this 29-year-old woman was free to remarry. It wasn't enough for them to testify that their daughter's ex-husband was living with another woman--they had to write a letter and sign it. We all shook our heads.

  • sass_my_frass
    sass_my_frass

    Sparrow you legend...

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