Reject the WTS........get treated the same as one who is disfellowshipped?

by RULES & REGULATIONS 16 Replies latest jw friends

  • I quit!
    I quit!

    Persons who make themselves 'not of our sort' by deliberately rejecting the faith and beliefs of Jehovah's Witnesses should appropriately be viewed and treated as are those who have been disfellowshiped for wrongdoing. --The Watchtower, September 15, 1981, page 23.

    That quote came out just about the time I left the WT. I was coach by an exjw in Colton CA on how to leave and not get df''d. I though people would still be able to talk to me if I wasn't df'd then that article came along. None of them ever spoke with me again. That isn't entirely true I have been able to say hi to one or two of them in the past 25 plus years. But that is all they would say. Some of them are dead now so the chance to speak with them again is gone forever. Pretty pathetic but that's the Watchtower for you.

  • emptywords
    emptywords

    In 1980 all congregations of JW were sent a letter from the tower, stating that if anyone disagrees with anything the WTBTS said would be classified as an apostate and disfellowshiped, this was to keep the congregations from the spreading fire of dissent.

    After 1975 many b/s left and some that stayed on were disgruntled, then they had the witch hunt at bethel over the Franz thing.

    So b/s were not allowed to disagree with the tower in any way. Just a few years after that they changed the baptism requirement. You were baptisized in the name of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit, AND only if you believed that the FDS was the only channel used by God, in effect obedience to the tower and GB.

  • Lady Liberty
    Lady Liberty

    Yes, they play Judge and Jury! What a dangerous state to be in before our judge, Jesus. I am so glad I am leaving that up to him now!!

    Sincerely,

    Lady Liberty

  • Arthur
    Arthur

    Incidently, what ever happened to Peter?

    Peter Gregerson and his wife still live in Alabama. He is on the board of directors of BRCI. It was almost a year ago that I sent him an email, and it was his wife that replied. They still attend the annual BRCI conferences where Peter is a regular speaker. I have one of his lectures on audio tape, and it's very good.

  • blondie
    blondie

    A noteworthy point, Ray's wife, Cynthia, also "ate with" the Gregersons and was not df'd..............

    Makes you realize the real motive or goal behind it all.

    Blondie

  • Arthur
    Arthur
    A noteworthy point, Ray's wife, Cynthia, also "ate with" the Gregersons and was not df'd..............

    Very true, I forgot about that. Drew Sagan and his wife went through some irrational judicial committee nonsense recently. He wrote about a lot of it in his threads, and I talked with him on the phone about it a few days ago. I have known Witnesses who have been involved in behavior much worse than what him and his wife ever did (holding a YMCA membership to use the pool), and have never been called to a jc. His wife even offered to drop the membership, but they still DFd her.

  • WTWizard
    WTWizard

    And what happened to the other Peter? That is, the apostle Peter? Didn't he publicly disown Jesus three times the night before Jesus was killed? In effect, Peter disassociated himself at that time. Was he shunned? Did he have to wait years, or forever, for further assignments? I don't think so. All Jesus did was give him a look, and Peter was immediately accepted back. In fact, only a few weeks later, Peter was given some weighty assignments and carried them out, albeit with a couple of baubles. Ultimately, Peter was faithful.

    What if that had happened within the Watchtower Society? I doubt that the defector would have been allowed back in so soon, let alone be given such weighty assignments. And, if He &$#^ed up again (remember, Peter had more corrections coming when he hid from the Gentiles upon other Jews seeing him), he would have been banned for good. Not only that, no one would have been allowed to even speak to Peter. Remember, Jesus did not initiate shunning Peter for disowning him three times that night.

    Even Judas Iscariot did not get shunned the way the Tower shuns apostates. Remember, Judas Iscariot betrayed Jesus and was cut off from being an apostle for that. Ultimately, Judas hanged himself. But there is no indication that he was shunned for it. To me, what Raymond Franz did could not possibly have been as serious as Judas Iscariot, since Franz did not get an innocent person killed. Nor did Franz initiate shunning the Watchtower Society (he never did disassociate), which disowned him one big time. Either way, the Puketower Society is not living up to Christ's example. Raymond Franz did try to live up to it, but was stopped from succeeding. No, shunning disassociated people is not scriptural.

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