Durn straight and don't they forget it, if not they will be sorry, as I will make their sorry asses, sorry, this was passed on to me from a friend who had been DA'd. He lived it to, he wouldn't let them forgert the ways especailly in front of others not of their ilk.
Should Jehovahs Witnesses Be Held Responsible For Shunning?
by The wanderer 26 Replies latest jw friends
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journey-on
Believe it or not, but the courts are taking a new look at this practice. In the past, they didn't choose to interfer in a religion's practices, but Scientology, of all things, is shedding new light on just how harmful this practice is to the overall health of a community in that it breaks down the family unit which in turn, breaks down society. I'm doing some research on this practice and American tort law and have discovered that where in the past these cases were lost, now some are being won....not by ex-JWs just yet, but by ex-Scientologists. This may open the door for some new pushes for the courts to take a closer look at how the WTS encourages this through their "teaching techniques".
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keyser soze
Brainwashed or not, each person is responsible for the way they treat others. Humanity and common decency are things we are all born with. If you allow those things to be taken from you, for whatever reason, then you are responsible.
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journey-on
If you allow those things to be taken from you, for whatever reason, then you are responsible.
But what about the children....those of us who were raised in it? Some have been able to release those shackels of indoctrination, but others couldn't because of the "thought-control techniques" of the Society. If it becomes clear that there is a purposeful effort to control by means of the shunning policy, then they should be held accountable IMO.
If you came into the cult as a fully mature adult, then NO. But if you have been indoctrinated from early childhood, and it is proven that the behind the scenes leadership has purposely used mind-control techniques and fear of shunning, then YES.
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Dragonlady76
Brainwashed or not, each person is responsible for the way they treat others. Humanity and common decency are things we are all born with. If you allow those things to be taken from you, for whatever reason, then you are responsible.
I agree.
People are born with a sense of right and wrong and it's up to the individual to choose how to proceed.
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choosing life
Yes, we are all responsible for our actions and words. I have only had 1 person close to me Dfd and I didn't stop talking to him, but I did not closely associate with him and I have made amends since then.
I don't buy the idea that if you joined their club, they have a right to throw you out and shun you. That is what the WTS would like us to believe. and there is obviously mind control involved because we don't see this happening by choice.
I sometimes wonder how many dead bodies of friends and loved ones a person will walk over to get to their "paradise".
I hope the tide turns as Journey On mentioned about scientologists making headway on lawsuits. As with everything else, it will take legal sanctions and the loss of money to bring about any changes.
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Fatfreek
I'm doing some research on this practice and American tort law and have discovered that where in the past these cases were lost, now some are being won ....not by ex-JWs just yet, but by ex-Scientologists .
These victories must certainly be fresh in your mind because of your research. Please help us out here and cite one of them so we can share in this encouragement.
Len
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IP_SEC
others. Humanity and common decency are things we are all born with. If you allow those things to be taken from you, for whatever reason, then you are responsible.
I suppose you guys would like it to be illegal to be an asshole huh?
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OnTheWayOut
IP_SEC has a point. A JW who shuns is really doing what he perceives to be God's Will.
They are no more responsible than we were for getting baptized into this cult.Maybe we were tricked, information withheld, grew up into it, whatever. If we can make
excuses for ourselves, then we should be able to make excuses for the captives.Still, you would think that mothers and grandmothers (and others, but especially them)
would overcome their cult training. I feel that giving them some blame might snap some
of them out of their shunning attitude. If you do that, be prepared to forgive them if they
ever come around.I know, Wanderer, I seem to be on both sides. I won't hold them responsible if I am ever
shunned, but I won't tell them that until they stop shunning me. -
Finally-Free
Each sane adult is responsible for his or her own actions. Blaming bad behaviour on others is a cop out. Just because a person or organization encourages bad behaviour doesn't make those listening any less responsible.
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