Making sense of sex and the bible

by Leander 15 Replies latest jw friends

  • JanH
    JanH

    Leander,

    It always seemed odd to me that one of the most pleasurable activities that a person can engage in was also one of the more regulated activities as well.

    Very good point.

    A "theory" advocated by George Orwell in "1984" was that by controlling people's sexuality, they could better control their thoughts. The frustration was channeled into hatred of the enemies of the Party.

    Note how the Taliban terrorist recruits are denied any access to women in this life, and then promised access to beautiful female sex slaves in the afterlife.

    It is clear that the power of the Christian churches especially stems from convincing people that they are horrible sinners. Sexual sins play a large part in the guilt that many religions feed on. Since everybody (almost) has sex or at least wants sex, what is more clever than saying "you need our remedies to cure your guilt from being so immortal"?

    - Jan
    --
    "Doctor how can you diagnose someone with Obsessive Compulsive Disorder and then act like I had some choice about barging in here right now?" -- As Good As It Gets

  • willy_think
    willy_think

    Leander,
    i couldn't agree more. after reading your frist post agan and thinking about what i rembmber of the "acceptable" sex form the bible. i find my self asking just who and what it is that gives us this form of "regulated" sex? like: only with your wife- only one wife-only to make babys etc.. i don't think it is the bible.

  • Kent
    Kent

    I'd say: Keep to the sex - and screw the Bible :)

    Yakki Da

    Kent

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  • Xena
    Xena

    lol just had to clear this up in my mind at least...Noah didn't sleep with his daughters...Gen 10:20-23 he got drunk and his sons saw him drunk and naked...Lot on the other hand had sex with BOTH his daughters..of course he was drunk and didn't know what he was doing..Gen 19:3-36

  • Rex B13
    Rex B13

    For Bboy,
    Here we go again. When are you going to actually study the subject you so love to talk about? You know, the apparent contradictions in scripture.
    First of all, the scriptures from the N.T. that you quoted were the requirements for elders (pastors) and deacons, the two Biblical offices for church leadership.
    In Genesis, God joined together a man and woman as the ideal but not the law as such. This continued into the Law Covenant dispensation (do you remember that term?) though it is obvious that God did not ban polygamy. Men were allowed to have more than one wife, it was not adultery. In the N.T, Paul much recommended the single life but he of course did not stand against even polygamy, nor can I remember anywhere that it is considered 'adultery'.
    Incest is another necessary thing that was not harmful to man who was much closer to original creation, You should also notice that this was rarely full brother/sister incest after a few hundred years. It was more often cousins or halfs, which is not technically incest.
    Now it is a traditional thing and often it is a law in societies. It's all a thing of balance with excesses either way being harmful. Just like most other endeavors in life, eh?

    Hi Jan,
    You're very much missing the point on sexuality. Unbridled sexuality leads to these things (in general):
    1) Unplanned pregnancies, which leads to abortions and more disfunctional families. There is no question that the traditional family is the most stable environment to raise children to become resposible adults.
    2) Abortions or we have situations like the woman recently who was having her fifteenth child by several different men and we, society in general, get stuck with the bill.
    3) Children basically raised on the street when their father is nowhere to be found and mom is a drunk or druggie. 9 out of 10 of these offspring get into trouble with the law.
    4) Rampant illnesses and disease related to promiscuity, which is a big reason that one whould avoid this.
    5) Devestation of solid families by one party or the other who is disloyal to his or her mate.
    Even humanism teaches that some sexuality is destructive.

    BTW, the terrorists who worked for Bin Laden went to stripper bars and prostitutes the nights before their suicidal rampage. Odd, isn't it, if they were so dedicated to Islam why did they essentially do things that led them to hell (according to their own teachings!).
    Hey, I absolutely enjoy a healthy sexuality but I could fall at any time by being overconfident and not leaning on God. This is my 'achilles heel' and I love assertive, confident, attractive women.
    Rex

  • lauralisa
    lauralisa

    Hi Leander:

    "think about how many people who got married simply because they couldn't go through life being celebate"

    That makes me think of the countless 16 and 17-year old jw's I watched getting married simply because they couldn't stand anything; they thought being able to have sex would make it all endurable.

    It's only water from a stranger's tear (Peter Gabriel)

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