WT PR At It Again

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  • messenger
    messenger

    For Immediate Release
    October 16, 2001

    Jehovah's Witnesses seek to protect fundamental freedom in the Supreme Court

    The First Amendment right to free speech has been challenged for some time now in the village of Stratton, Ohio. In the early 1980s, a village policeman chased a group of Jehovah's Witnesses out of town when they were performing their hallmark door-to-door ministry, telling them, "I could care less about your rights."

    Early in 1998, three women who were Jehovah's Witnesses were in the village to continue discussions with individuals who had previously shown an interest in their Bible message. When they had completed their visits and were driving away from the village, the local mayor stopped them and told them that they were not allowed to be in the village and that if they had been men, he would have taken them and put them in jail. He said that people had moved to the village with the understanding that they would not be bothered by Jehovah's Witnesses. The congregation and the legal representatives of Watchtower saw the implications of these actions and filed suit against the village contesting the requirement that individuals need a permit to engage in door-to-door activity. Both the District Court and the Court of Appeals upheld the village requirement. On Monday, October 15, 2001, the United States Supreme Court granted Watchtower's request for review.

    The events in Stratton might raise some concern to any who recall the harsher denials of civil liberties and the persecution against some Christians that occurred in the midst of wartime fever decades ago in this country. Then, in some places opposition to the work of Jehovah's Witnesses escalated, and they were run out of town, sometimes after being beaten, tarred and feathered. It took court cases in one place after another to define, clarify and protect the freedom of speech that the Bill of Rights assured.

    "Freedom of speech is a fundamental right that every citizen of the United States should cherish," commented Paul Polidoro, legal representative for Jehovah's Witnesses. "When you don't have the freedom to knock on your neighbors' door to talk about a matter without the permission of the town, then everyone should worry."

    Last year Shawn Francis Peters was interviewed on the topic of his book Judging Jehovah's Witnesses, which outlines specifics of many of the cases and surrounding events. In one response he stated, "What struck me about the story of the Witnesses was that these 'outsiders' had such a positive impact on how the Constitution has been interpreted over the past half-century."

    Court cases involving Jehovah's Witnesses make up a significant portion of U.S. and Canadian law relating to freedom of religion, freedom of speech, and freedom of the press. These cases have done much to preserve the liberties of people in general. The U.S. Supreme Court has ruled in favor of Jehovah's Witnesses in 47 cases.

    "Like it or not," observed American author and editor Irving Dillard, "Jehovah's Witnesses have done more to help preserve our freedoms than any other religious group."

    Contact J. R. Brown, telephone: (718) 560-5600

  • cornish
    cornish

    Unless you happen to use your freedom of speech to disagree with the Watchtower......then its not so appreciated a human right.

  • NikL
    NikL

    You can say that again cornish! LOL

  • mommy
    mommy

    Cornish!
    That was classic, and I couldn't let this slide without telling you! Thanks for the chuckle, but it is sad that it is true.
    wendy

    Blind faith can justify anything.~Richard Dawkins

  • ozziepost
    ozziepost

    Yesterday I was visited by an elder on a mission (We were in Bethel together).

    We had not seen each other for 4½ years.

    He said he had come to talk about old times? the weather? our families? No, he wanted to know what I thought about an issue concerning the organisation.

    I told him.

    He turned his back and walked out of my home without even a goodbye.

    Free speech? You've got to be kidding Mr Brown!

    Cheers,
    Ozzie

    "It's better to light a candle than to curse the darkness."
    Anonymous

  • Stephanus
    Stephanus

    You been saying that JWs should be allowed to wear leather like the apostates do again, Ozzie? LOL

  • nelly136
    nelly136

    __________________________________________________________________
    "Like it or not," observed American author and editor Irving Dillard, "Jehovah's Witnesses have done more to help preserve our freedoms than any other religious group."
    __________________________________________________________________

    irving dillard born on November 27, 1904

    you reckon we should phone him and ask what he thinks about the UN thing?
    nelly

  • outnfree
    outnfree

    ROFLMBO! Good work, Nelly!

    OK, in the early 1980's the village of Stratton already had the attitude that peddlers were unwelcome. Can anyone remind me when the donation arrangement came into effect in the U.S.? I was residing in Canada beginning in summer of 1986, and I know in THAT country the change came sometime after that. WERE the Jehovah's Witnesses working in Stratton PEDDLERS in the early 1980's?

    By 1998 the village had passed a law requiring all sorts of peddlers and solicitors to register for a permit. Granted, now the Witnesses were offering their literature on a donation arrangement, so they might not see themselves as peddlers, but they certainly were promulgating a particular cause which IS against the law in Stratton.

    I love this line:

    The events in Stratton might raise some concern to any who recall the harsher denials of civil liberties and the persecution against some Christians that occured in the midst of wartime fever decades ago in this country. [Bold mine]

    The next sentence reveals WHICH Christians those were, but the sentence is a great spin targeted to raise the specter of like 'wartime fever' during the U.S.'s present War Against Terrorism and fuel the Witness persecution syndrome!

    I guess they can no longer quote Jim Penton's first book about the Watchtower and its legal cases in the U.S. and Canada since he is now an apostate, so they've got this new guy, Peters?

    Anyone read Judging Jehovah's Witnesses? Who IS Shawn Francis Peters? And does he know ANYTHING about the curtailed freedom of speech for INDIVIDUAL Jehovah's Witnesses in the U.S. and other countries around the globe (as cornish so quickly pointed out)?

    outnfree

    Par dessus toutes choses, soyez bons. La bonte est ce qui ressemble le plus a Dieu et ce qui desarme le plus les hommes -- Lacordaire

  • blondie
    blondie

    I believe a letter dated 4/21/1990 was read to the congregation.

    *** km 3/91 2 Meetings to Help Us Make Disciples ***
    “Our Simplified Literature Distribution Arrangement.”
    Elder may also incorporate points from Society’s letter of April 21, 1990.

    *** km 10/91 7 Question Box ***
    Should publishers and pioneers feel obligated to contribute to the Society’s worldwide work each time they obtain literature for field service at the Kingdom Hall?
    No. As stated in the April 21, 1990, letter to all congregations in the United States: “Publishers may . . . make their own donations to support the worldwide work according to their ability and desire, whenever they choose to do so.—2 Cor. 8:10-15; 9:6-14.”

  • Seeker
    Seeker

    What this press release implies is not true: the Supreme Court is NOT considering whether or not the Stratton, OH law requiring permits to go door-to-door is constitutional. The lower courts have already said that it is constitutional, and the Supreme Court chose not to look at that matter. The ONLY thing the Supreme Court will decide is whether or not it is constitutional to have the person's name on the permit. No matter what the Supreme Court decides, the town will continue to issue permits. You can't tell that from this press release.

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