If you are free, why can't you travel to Cuba?

by sammielee24 20 Replies latest jw friends

  • ColdRedRain
    ColdRedRain

    And BTW, your question also begs another question. If Cuba is really that great, why can't Cubans travel to the U.S. or any other country that is in disagreement with Cuban political ideals?

  • nvrgnbk
    nvrgnbk

    Touche!

  • ColdRedRain
    ColdRedRain

    Yes. Cubans vote R because the Democratic party is soft on the Cuban governent. If you only knew how bad it was in Cuba, you wouldn't be so quick to put them in a good light. Castro gets what he deserves and the more pressure we put on him and his government, the better.

  • sammielee24
    sammielee24

    I don't know if anyone has said Cuba is without fault or problems for anything. That isn't the question.

    Why should any American not be able to travel to the country to see for themselves? If the Cuban government wants to place a ban on Americans travelling there, then I guess that's their perogative - but considering America is known as the 'land of the free', shouldn't that freedom extend to travel? There are a lot of people who can't stand the politics of China but who have no problem visiting there or doing business there - many in the USA won't like the Cuban politics but might enjoy visiting or doing business there. Should we be able to pick apart the countries to the extent that vacationing is restricted? I'm not in line to visit either country - have no desire to - but why freedom to visit some countries and not others as restricted by your own government? sammieswife.

  • nvrgnbk
    nvrgnbk

    The guy that works for me, top notch person, is there for a month. He's been here with his family for about 6 years.

    He sees both sides of the issue.

    I get what the embargo was meant to accomplish.

    But it's harmed the people, not Castro.

    It's only helped him.

    How do you respond to the thought of the policy being hypocritical, in view of the China policy?

  • LongHairGal
    LongHairGal

    Sammilee:

    Being a good citizen is kind of like being in the JW religion.

    You have to obey the rules or the government makes trouble for you. The Cuban government is being treated as "disfellowshipped" and you can't associate with them.

    LHG

  • Pioneer Spit...oh, i mean Spirit
    Pioneer Spit...oh, i mean Spirit

    The way I see it, as soon as you leave US borders, you are no longer free.

  • skeeter1
    skeeter1

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  • PrimateDave
    PrimateDave

    Here is a little joke I read once:


    Some tourists were standing in line in an airport in the Dominican Republic. One of them lit up a big fat cigar.

    "Hey, you can't smoke in here!" cried one of the tourists in line.

    A friend of the smoker replied, "What? It's a free country. If you don't like it go back to the USA!"


    Dave (who prefers Temporary Autonomous Zones)

  • MinisterAmos
    MinisterAmos

    >>There is a large Cuban-American population in Florida that absolutely hates Fidel Castro. Many of these people have reason to hate Castro -- they were rich landowners or businessmen who had their property seized stolen during the Cuban revolution in the late 50's,<< If you could get one of these rich "businessmen" to tell the truth about Cuba unde Batista, then Castro would be hailed as a hero in the US for literally freeing the slaves. I'm speaking less figuratively than you might think; Cuban laborers comprised over 90% of the population at the time of the Revolution, and they were poorer than dirt. There was no such thing as "freedom of employment". If a Cuban decided their pay was too low or the work too hard, then they would not be re-employed anywhere. The Sugar Barons lived a life of royalty enjoying the full benefits of their employess up to pulling random women off the streets for their amusement. Remember, Castro overthrew the country with an army of FIFTY men and women armed with pistols and machetes. Nobody overthrows a country with a large, standing, modern army with 50 badly armed farmers unless there is a serious problem. Castro was, and still is loved by the Cubans on the island; not so much by the Cubans in Miami but guess what? The Miami Cubans have less free-speech in this matter than the ones on the island. Unless you've lived there you have no idea how much pressure there is to overlook the fact that Castro is probably the longest sitting leader in the Hemisphere, maybe the world?

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