Hypothetical Situation

Junction-Guy

Suppose you met a JW and started talking, and right from the beginning you start questioning them and their doctrines. You knew they were practicing "theocratic warfare strategy" just from your former knowledge of their beliefs. However there is one major thing that they are honestly ignorant about? You know they arent lying in this instance, they are telling what you believe is their version of the truth in this instance.

Get where Im going?

What if a JW honestly didnt know about the WT Society's involvement in the UN? And was rather repulsed by the very thought of them being a quasi-member with the UN?

What would be the best way for you to prove to them that the WT Society was an NGO?

What would be the best way to prove it? A letter from the Society? A personal phone call to the society?

What would make them actually believe that they were an NGO?

FlipThis

probably the only think that would make them believe is a call to the society.

But then they'd just buy the stock answer.

When I told my mother about this, she said "If that's true, I could no longer be a JW"

Once it was proven to her (by asking an Elder in her cong.), she took their bait hook line and sinker...

Happens every time.

drew sagan

I could be a good way to go.

I think it is best if you are talking to a JW to just kind of mention these things in a matter of fact way. Just kind of act like it is something they know, and then act surprised that they don't know it.

When they say it must be made up you'd want to ask them 'why would the United Nations make that up?'. You could even ask them if they would be willing to clear the matter up for you once they did the research!

As long as they feel you are sincere in your requests they usually will struggle to try and please you. They don't want to upset and potential converts!

drew sagan

Just wanted to add that it's best to let them do the work. JWs will do all kinds of research on their own to try and 'vindicate Jehovah's name'. If you make it seem like you have the entire thing settled in your mind and you want to expose them to the 'truth about the truth' then they will back off. They have to think they are doing God a service by trying to clear this thing up with you.

FlipThis

great idea drew...

Junction-Guy

Good ideas, keep them coming.

sweet pea

The timing is more important when telling them this information.

If they are at a point where they are already questioning or are at a very low/vulnerable/exhausted place, then they may possibly, and only very possibly start to realise the implications of such a fact.

If they are not at this point then you are wasting your breath, however cleverly you put it to them.

If I had a pound for every time a dub said that it was perfectly ok to be a member because they needed to be to use the library, I'd be a rich woman!

I also had another dub say to me "they didn't care if there were 10,000 paedophiles in the congregation - nothing would make them believe that the society isn't God's true channel!"

Choose your moment, tell it how it is and leave them to do the research on the internet or phone up the United Nations....

JK666

The letter from Paul Hoeffel (NGO-DPI) was the clincher for me. Straight from the horses mouth, not dem 'postates!

AK - Jeff

Hand him a slip that says;

Website; www.un.org/english
Keyword search; Watchtower
Query; What do you think?
Talk to me later.

MadTiger

I am working on two of my friends.

I ONLY use things that don't involve "apostates."

I use newspaper articles, court documents, etc.

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