Panic on Wall Street

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  • 5go
    5go

    U.S. stocks to see more volatility next week Fed cut in discount rate leaves market hoping for more By Nick Godt , MarketWatch Last Update: 12:01 AM ET Aug 18, 2007 PrintPrint EmailE-mail Subscribe to RSSSubscribe to RSSDisableDisable Live Quotes

    NEW YORK (MarketWatch) -- Stocks will remain volatile next week, although with more of an upbeat tone than in recent times, as investors weigh the effectiveness of the Federal Reserve's surprise cut of its discount rate, a move widely seen as an attempt to diffuse this summer's credit markets crisis, analysts said.

    The central bank's key fed funds rate, which directly impacts short-term bonds, was left unchanged at its current level of 5.25%. "The move by the Fed [Friday] morning was important but it was largely symbolic," said Mike Malone, trading analyst at Cowen & Co. "It will serve to reduce volatility in the coming week but there is still a tremendous amount of uncertainty out there." On Friday, news that the Fed had cut the discount rate by 50 basis point inspired a "relief rally" that saw the Dow Jones Industrial Average Yet the rally wasn't enough to reverse steep weekly losses. The blue-chip average lost 1.2% on the week,fell 0.5% and the Nasdaq Composite "The one thing that [central bankers] showed is that they're flexible," Malone said. "In the event that credit markets would deteriorate further, it's now reasonable to assume that they would act and that helps to reduce the uncertainty and the volatility we've seen in recent weeks." "But we're not out of the woods yet," he said. "There is the potential for additional shoes to drop," or more bad news coming from financial institutions across the globe. Halting a very negative trend Volatile conditions and bad news at financial institutions first led markets to enter "official" correction territory on Thursday, with major indices having lost more than 10% from their July highs. The Dow fell 200 points on Tuesday, 167 points on Wednesday, and more than 340 points on Thursday before a late-day rebound. The Fed's move "definitely changes the mood, but it doesn't fix the problem," said Owen Fitzpatrick, head of the U.S. equity group at Deutsche Bank. "Challenges in credit markets and subprime markets remain," he said. "We have to see what additional fall-out there is from hedge funds or institutions trying to come to the market for liquidity." Before the Fed's intervention, the week was again marked by turmoil in credit markets and woes linked to subprime mortgages at big financial institutions. Countrywide Financial the largest mortgage lender in the nation, saw its shares slide 31% this past week, even after rebounding 13% on Friday. The lender drew down all of a $11.5 billion credit facility to fund its operations, saying that difficulty in raising money in credit markets was a potential threat to its business. Standard & Poor's cut its ratings on the firm, citing liquidity and earnings pressures. Other casualties of the credit crisis this week included Sentinel Group, a futures brokerage, which said it wouldn't allow clients to withdraw their money, as well as Thornburg Mortgage which said it wouldn't accept new lock-in requests for mortgages for four days. The week had started on news that Goldman Sachs had injected $3 billion in one of its troubled hedge funds. Real rate cut? While the Fed's move a seen a positive surprise by the market, "people will now probably place a high probability of a cut [in the Fed funds rate] in September," said Deutsche Bank's Fitzpatrick. The cut in the discount rate was "a band aid, but we still need to get to a point where credit markets are functioning properly," he said. Speculation over whether the central bank will really cut interest rates at its Sept. 18 meeting, or sooner, will have ample room next week, amid a dearth of economic data. The main economic news will come on Friday, when reports on July durable goods orders and new home sales will be released. "Expectations are that the Fed will lower rates at the next meeting in September and that will serve to limit volatility in coming weeks," said Cowen's Malone. "But I'm reluctant to say that the market will appreciate meaningfully next week." Watching the yen Investors will also closely monitor the Japanese yen, which rallied to a 14-month high against the dollar, in a move that led the Tokyo Stock Exchange to have its worst day in nearly six years on Friday. For Japan, a stronger yen threatens exports and its overall economic recovery. But for investors, a weak yen had been a symptom of a boom in liquidity that had helped boost financial markets and economies across the globe over the past few years. Investors would borrow yens at zero or near-zero interest rates in Japan to invest in high-yielding currencies and assets across the globe with virtually no risk attached, the so-called yen carry trade. But the current credit crisis and the repricing of risk has seen a reversal of that trend, and investors now fear that the yen carry trade has also stopped being a key source of liquidity for global markets. Earnings "Even though no one cares, earnings have been pretty good," said David Dropsey, senior research analyst at Thomson Financial. With 93% of S&P 500 having now reported, earnings growth in the second quarter is now pegged at 8.1%, a vast improvement from the 4.1% expected at the beginning of July. That still remains below the double-digit earnings growth that had been seen over the past few years. With the credit crisis completely absorbing the market's attention, investors haven't really been reacting to the overall results from earnings season. "It's been 100% trumped by the other news," Dropsey said. What still bears paying attention, however, is that the overall number of companies providing forward-looking guidance is substantially lower than last year and in previous quarters. Only 80 companies of the S&P 500 have provided guidance so far, compared with 130 at this time last year. And out of the roughly 6,000 companies tracked by Thomson Financial, only 432 companies have provided guidance, compared with 642 last year.

  • Sad emo
    Sad emo

    It looks like what happened over here a few years ago - low interest rates (plus a few other factors), everyone bought houses, those who were selling houses hoofed their prices - then the interest rates rose again, folks couldn't keep up their mortgage repayments and lost their homes... Businesses did the same, they borrowed to build and the banks pulled on them. The stock market collapsed.

    Our markets here seem to go in a 3-5 year cycle of steady growth (with small corrections) followed by a major correction. Then the cycle starts again. This could be a good time to go for long term investment.

  • 5go
    5go
    When things go awry the investor is told the market is being "CORRECTED" and the naughty investor is really to blame

    That is why we have an SEC the greastest paper tiger of the all.

    SEC jod is to protect investors form such things as.

    Pump and Dump : Buy stocks and sing their praises till the stock rises then sell to some sucker that buys them from you. Then the stock tanks because well you were the only reason it went up in the first place. It's fraud so it it illegal.

    Insider Trading : A CEO sees his company is about to tank so he sell his stock before any one else to keep from losing. Though he is the one responsble his the tanking. He also could set a companies collapse and sell short to make money. Hence, why it is illegal to do it.

    Watered stock : Is an asset with an artificially-inflated value. The term is most commonly used to refer to a form of securities fraud common under older corporate laws that placed a heavy emphasis upon the "Par value" of stock.

    "Stock Watering" was originally a method employed in order to increase the weight of cows before sale. It entailed forcing a cow to bloat itself with water before it was weighed for sale.

  • 5go
    5go
    Our markets here seem to go in a 3-5 year cycle of steady growth (with small corrections) followed by a major correction. Then the cycle starts again. This could be a good time to go for long term investment.

    Oh, I agree if they make it through it this time buy into the markets really low is a good long term investment.

    Just like putting money in the market in 1935 was a good idea but, you have to of had money to do that.

  • Sad emo
    Sad emo

    Can you lend me a few grand 5go lol!!

  • 5go
    5go
    Can you lend me a few grand 5go lol!!

    No, sorry I am waiting for the dow to drop below 10,000.

  • 5go
    5go
    Can you lend me a few grand 5go lol!!

    Oh wait found 1G I you can lend you at 100% interest componded daily.

  • Open mind
    Open mind

    See. Pretty soon they'll be throwing their money in the streets!!

    Armageddon's right around the corner!!!

    1914!

    Preach the good news!!

    Religion is a snare and a racket!!

    *Open Mind falls to the floor and continues with pre-programmed seizure*

  • Satanus
    Satanus

    Yah, it's cycles. It starts w paradise, then tribulation and armageddon, then paradise, again, and so on. Smart people w money buy during armageddon and sell during paradisaic conditions. It doesn't last for a thousand yrs, though. They are not literal days or yrs. Nobdy knows the time and the hour. When they say 'buy' or 'sell', don't listen to them, for many will say buy or sell in an attempt to sheer the sheep. For, where the carcass is there will be the eagles. The wise one goes into his inner room to count his money.

    JCannon

    S

  • JH
    JH

    I hope the Watchtower wont lose too much money

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