What really gets me going

by ballistic 12 Replies latest jw friends

  • ballistic
    ballistic
    they do conceal information for the sake of preserving the image and interests of the organization and their hold on power.


    I agree with this also, but in the sense that "they know not what they do".
    I believe the organisation to be like a machine gone wrong, like a frankenstiens monster which is out of control.
    The basic component which facilitates it being a machine is self-replication (accomplished through preaching and the teaching of offspring).
    This growth mechanism is defended by safety protocols which dis-allow members to search for alternatives or even question their own beliefs.
    And finally, the force or fuel motivating them is religion and all that it encompasses (fear of loosing one's life, fear of God, and in the case of witnesses fear of loosing friends and family).
    I am trying to make this brief, but I feel that the organisation has the "recipe" for controling all of it's members including the leaders in such a way that it is self-perpetuating and self-deceiving.
    Maybe the first "bible students" had no idea what it would become, and as has been stated before they would all be disfellowshipped today for what they believed.
    Another component which makes the truth so dangerous is that the beliefs themselves change to match the circumstances, and as you mentioned, that the history of these changes is not only not evident but is condoned as part of the process itself.
    I have a lot more I would love to fit in here, perhaps I will write a whole new post on it when I have time.
    For now, lets just say my anger I spoke of earlier could be classed as "Rage Against The Machine".

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  • voltaire
    voltaire

    Amazing,

    I agree with your sentiments that the society needs to change its cultish mentality. But I also see that no longer teaching that they are God's exclusive organization could cause some real problems. Why go out in service? It's just not that easy to get people involved and active if you don't have some leverage. And what better leverage than you've got to save the world?

  • Si
    Si

    Ballistic. You sound as though your past is still with you and it is a source of sadness. Sometimes it may be good to look at the positive as well as the negative, I've found this helps. I grew up as a JW with probably the original 'control' parents. At first I thought they caused me much pain (which they did) but I have since relised that they did their best for me, to the extent that they knew how. They were also a product of their generation (not just being JW's) just as we all are. I am also a parent and I did my best, but it has not always been good enough. My parents were excellent sports-people before becoming JW's, and as all sports-people they pushed the limits in order to achieve. They did this in the 'truth' too, and they did it to me. I used to resent this, but now I realize this is my strength. Yep, I left school as soon as I could to pioneer, but I am now doing a Ph.D. The thing I learned from my parents was to not give up something if you believe in it. It is a mistake to think that it is only JW parents that push their kids to the limit and suffocate them. As an educator I have worked in countries other than my own where the pressures on very young children to succeed are unbelievable. The competition between school, class, age-group and family is intense. Children are deprived of sleep and pushed beyond anything that is normal; all to be viewed as successful and not shame their parents. Many suicide. I think it is easy to become bound within a certain thinking paradigm and focus the blame for ouselves on one entity, but really our lives are up to ourselves. I have yet to meet the person who thinks they have had a perfect life! I had some bad times as a JW, but I also had some good times, it could have been much, much worse. I choose not to associate now, but I have no anger towards them, in fact I have much to be thankful for. Regret and anger play a role in the healing process, but it is a sad place to get stuck. Out of the hard times come the good times...often.
    Bye....

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