I really thought I met one but then he dissapeard into his own smoke.
My Dad is a freakin Vulcan of WT, all logic mixed with sincereity.
He is gonna be tough......oompa
Ever met a "deep" JW?
by educ8self 31 Replies latest jw experiences
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theMartian
There are "deep' people in ALL faiths- it's incredible how the human mind can convince itself of fallacies! As a Catholic I never questioned Transubstantiation, for example- never questioned Hellfire or the Trinity! Firmly believed it all!
No- there is a difference between a "deep" person (who sooner or later will FIND God) and the typical shallow person- who rarely thinks or cares about weteher or not there is a God!
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eclipse
it's incredible how the human mind can convince itself of fallacies!
Coming from you, that is incredibally ironic and very true.
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nvrgnbk
Coming from you, that is incredibally ironic and very true.
Hehehehehehehehe.
The MadMartian is cool.
He gets it.
Right, bro?
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Terry
I had a real hero once.
I was in Federal Prison and my hero was a fellow named Tollie Padgett.
He was the toppermost of the poppermost.
After prison he and his wife went on to become foreign missionaries for the Society. I saw their graduation picture for the Gilead class.
Tollie used the Socratic method of teaching. I learned more from him in a few weeks than I'd learned going to the Kingdom Hall in years and years.
Tollie used outside sources for his studies; unashamedly.
Tollie was smart, insightful and well-informed. He was also sharp.
He knew his way around the Society's publications and could tell you what book said what and how it fit with the scriptures.
Tollie was my hero and I determined to be just like him.
When I got out of prison and became a Pioneer I used Tollie's teaching methods. I received lots of praise for my hour talks and my bible studies.
I wish I could find him today and talk to him. I bet he'd give me an earfull!
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sweetstuff
No- there is a difference between a "deep" person (who sooner or later will FIND God) and the typical shallow person- who rarely thinks or cares about weteher or not there is a God!
The most spiritual and deep people are children. Their innocence about the world and the beauty seen through their eyes is the very essence of spirituality without concept.
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nvrgnbk
The most spiritual and deep people are children. Their innocence about the world and the beauty seen through their eyes is the very essence of spirituality without concept.
Wow!
With an observation like that, it's hard to believe you were ever a JW, sweetstuff.
Glad you got out!
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ness
non JWs do not hold the monopoly on introspection.
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educ8self
Thanks for all the replies you guys, I especially enjoy reading about the people you knew in the past, kind of gives a snippet of your life.
Ok so we're clear that JWs can be deep too, but how about this: How many people can be deep enough to go deeper than themselves? On the surface it seems like nonsense, but it is essentially when you've really changed and transformed - because you go beyond that identity rather than work around it or build on it. (more is not necessarily better, could be psychological defenses anyway) We think of breaking through limits in terms of physical and intellectual achievements, but it can apply to personality and our (limiting) ideas about ourselves, too.
Last night after I got off the phone with Craig I was thinking just how a human being is a terrible thing to waste. Not the mind only, but the whole thing! There is incredible potential in people but so many aren't really aware of it.
To me, seeing how people can be deep in the sense of being a great person involves a limit, because it has to be measured against other limits - it's just gone farther than others. Seeing the potential in us all is not seeing a limit.
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educ8self
Oh and speaking of children, a simple way of saying the same thing is when we tell them "you can be anything you want to be when you grow up" right? I don't know, actually it seems like we need to learn that from them or remember it, because I would imagine it is a given for them that they don't even think of limits, it's the adults that instill the limited thinking in them. There are practical aspects of that of course, but why be a set of limits?