How Reported Field Service Isn't Real (page 2)

Wasanelder Once

Field Service? People figured out a long time ago that it was just as productive, and cheaper, to fill in the form with hours and stay home. Now that gas is off the map in price I'm sure its more lies than hours. Remember, this is a legalistic, formality based religion. That's the same with the service. GO THROUGH THE MOTIONS.....

aniron

A subject that has come up often on here.

Apart from the early days as a JW when I was eager. I don't think in all the years as a JW I actually put in the correct report time and placements.

I've heard the Service Overseer when the reports were due telling brothers/sisters who hadn't reported, "just to put something down" on a slip. The prestige of the congregation came before whather any report was true. Keep the Circuit Overseer off the Elders backs.

As mentioned above how much time is actuallt spent !talking" to anyone on the doors.

I have watched JW's work the opposite side of the street were I live. Out of approx 50 houses they may have got to speak for about 30 seconds each , with 3-4 people. An hours work for 2 minutes talking.

I often wonder also about "counting time". If two JW's spend an hour working a street then each puts a report in claiming an hour each. The the WT will say two hours of "preaching" will have been done. When in reality only an hour was .

willyloman

It's ironic that the numbers we know something about, i.e. the field service reports, are clearly bogus. Yet, the numbers we only read about, i.e. peak publishers, percentage of growth, etc., are all accepted as precisely accurate. If the organization's primary "work" is based on false assumptions and fictional results, what is the rest of the organization built on?

Uncertain

So when I have a bible study, that counts as an hour for each person who joins the sister who leads the study? And when I chat with a baptized book study attendee before or after the riveting Revalation study, can they count the time? And if I speak to my JW neighbor in generalities, am I adding to her time? Wow. And because I sat near folks who knew I was visiting at the District Convention and chatted with others at the park nearby on our breaks, can they count that time?

How is it that this reminds me of Amway folks eating out and counting it as business meetings?

worldtraveller

Now that I have plenty of ammo to throw at the visitors, not one soul has greeted me since my enightenment from JWD. I will be paitently waiting tomorrow. If they need the hours, I have a message. I bet 5 minutes is all they will take.

Connaughty

You are right, surely there must be a better way to make the time count. Why do we constantly waste time on doors that do not have people home as well.

IP_SEC

I for one appreciate you were out there giving the warning message even if no one listened.

SirNose586

JWs are allowed to count time:
When traveling to territory or return visits. In a car group, the time is multiplied by the number of passengers.
Noninteractive activities like leaving magazines in waiting areas.
Standing on the street holding a magazine, but not talking to the hundreds walking by.
And standing as a couple, one person is counting time but not participating! This means the time is counted twice.

Whoa, I never thought of that! I knew that time was inflated on every disk, but this puts it in a new perspective.

Another thing: billions of hours spent in the ministry, and the returns become less and less...

Connaughty

This counting business is one of my pet peeves. Somehow one of these days the GB will have figured this out and we will study about it in one of the new future Watchtower Study articles, because this new arrangement just can't be shared with the outside. Stay tuned for other changes as well, such as 1) Time can now be counted for Coffee Breaks, but not field service. 2) Sisters who published more than 10 hrs a month in the old arrangement can now carry the microphones. 3) Brothers who didn't do 10 hrs in field service under the old arrangement are barred from giving talks in the Theocratic Ministry school. 4) Brothers who didn't report 10hrs pm under old arrangement, can not provide rides to those who did (they're not worthy of such ones) if, there are no brothers that qualify to give rides to these worthy ones. Let these worthy ones walk to the meetings. But, must do so with a view to witnessing, but will not report time under this new arrangement.

Can you tell that it's late and I'm going crazy, already?

AudeSapere

Uncertain wrote: So when I have a bible study, that counts as an hour for each person who joins the sister who leads the study? And when I chat with a baptized book study attendee before or after the riveting Revalation study, can they count the time? And if I speak to my JW neighbor in generalities, am I adding to her time? Wow. And because I sat near folks who knew I was visiting at the District Convention and chatted with others at the park nearby on our breaks, can they count that time?

Probably so. If you are invited somewhere, most likely someone is counting time - but generally only if they actually talk about something ~~spiritualtheocratic~~ of organizational interest.

-Aude.

How Reported Field Service Isn't Real

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