by AuldSoul 17 Replies latest watchtower bible
AS - your point is well made and the Pharoah was certainly recorded as being a fair and reasonable one. I just have to say that my comments were angled from the JW perspective and that I was focusing as you said " on that poor slob of a baker". At that snapshot moment in time prior to the Pharoah becoming part of Jehovah's purpose and a well rounded human being, he was having a baker hanged as part of his birthday festivities.
Clam
Clam,
I figured you were speaking from their POV. For all the account states, he may have had the custom of postponing judgment regarding capital charges until his birthday. I think Jehovah's Witnesses have woven way too much negativity into the account when, contextually, it is plainly conveyed as a rousing testament to the predictive and interpretive abilities of God.
In terms of Christianity, at stake was the preservation of the family line of Abraham and the attached promise, through whose lineage both Mary and Joseph—and subsequently Jesus—arrived.
Respectfully,
AuldSoul
Jesus said that not even he was good! only the Father!
Yes, I think that is a good reason not to attend meetings! Also, the only one who can spiritually execute someone is Jesus or Jehovah. I'm going to give you my honest opinnion! YOU are too smart to go to meetings! Your advanced in wanting to know more in details then what the Jehovah's Witnesses can provide you. In reality you sound like you need more and will gain it without boring yourself with little JDUB flaws in research and thinking! Find a place smarter than you so you can grow. I remember when I mapped out the OT it was exciting! I picked up The Good Land and wondered what happened! They left out almost the entire OT! People and lands that are important to understand. And their children books wew, Adams was not created in the Garden ok! who would want to teach their children about things that are not even close to accurate!
You are too smart! LOL
Excellent point.
Funny thing about jaydubeeyas they are only allowed to celebrate one birthday their entire life.
According to the Scriptures, the day the baby was born was usually one of rejoicing and thanksgiving on the part of the parents, and rightly so, for "look! Sons are an inheritance from Jehovah; the fruitage of the belly is a reward." (Ps 127:3; Jer 20:15; Lu 1:57, 58) However, there is no indication in the Scriptures that faithful worshipers of Jehovah ever indulged in the pagan practice of annually celebrating birthdays.
That must have been a really great birthday party. Was it your first one? I didn't read anywhere if it was.
they have no problem with celebrating wedding anniversaries,
(1 Kings 3:1) 3
And Sol´o·mon proceeded to form a marriage alliance with Phar´aoh the king of Egypt and to take Phar´aoh’s daughter and bring her to the City of David, until he finished building his own house and the house of Jehovah and Jerusalem’s wall all around.
so look what pharoah - another pagan king gave to his daughter as a wedding present
(1 Kings 9:16) 16 (Phar´aoh the king of Egypt himself had come up and then captured Ge´zer and burned it with fire, and the Ca´naan·ites dwelling in the city he had killed. So he gave it as a parting gift to his daughter, the wife of Sol´o·mon.)
yup he slaughtered a whole city...
so based on this reasoning no jws should give gifts as wedding presents...although they can still attend and drink wine..cos jesus did.
so lets recap..birthdays not allowed cos 2 'pagan' kings had one person each executed.
gifts at child birth allowable even tho herod had all boys 2 and under destroyed
gifts at weddings allowed although pharoah wiped out a whole city as a wedding present.
seems fair
Very good reasoning, AS.
Unless I'm mistaken, there are only two instances in the Bible of people applying eye makeup as well, both of the them were murderers. Seen the article "Eye Makeup -- Why Not For Christians" yet? Yeah, me neither...
Dave
I have birthday madness on the brain and need this fine thread in my record.....thanks.........oompa
The Bible mentions the deaths of faithful ones many times. Could it be that these faithful ones' death is what is being focused on, with the birthday as a side point? Or even a historical reference?
I had also read somewhere that birthdays were celebrated but usually only by the wealthy. This may explain why Jesus' family didn't celebrate his or his siblings.
momz
