My Mom's Reaction On The Phone...Please Help Me Understand

by deaconbluez 25 Replies latest jw friends

  • JWdaughter
    JWdaughter

    Did you ask her what secret sins she thinks you were harboring or anticipating? She is afraid that you have a valid reason, and that she will be shunning you for no damn reason, so she needs to think you are up to something evil to justify the evil that she will be encouraged to do you: shunning.

    I would just ask her what unscriptural/unchristian activities she thinks you are up to. If all she has on you is that you go to church or something, then maybe you could encourage her to consider how that is forbidden by scripture to associate with others who serve Christ.

    My heart goes out to you. I'm also the child of a JW who knows she can't think too hard on this stuff or her brain will implode. It probably physically hurt her to have her 'faith' in the org. ripped out from under her.

    Good luck, friend.

  • journey-on
    journey-on

    When somebody voluntarily leaves the bOrg, almost all witnesses think it's because

    "they couldn't live up to our standards." My sister has used that so many times it makes

    me want to barf. They think you want an excuse to live loose and wild because this is

    how the literature portrays anybody that would even think of leaving Jehovah. (Jehovah = The org in their mind).

    Just keep reassuring your mom that you are living a clean wholesome life and happier than you've ever

    been now that you know the truth.

  • Finally-Free
    Finally-Free

    I've seen a similar tendency in my non JW family as well as JWs. It's easier for them to believe that I'm bad, evil, stupid or filth than it is for them to entertain the possibility that they could be wrong about anything.

    W

  • Mincan
    Mincan

    I got the same reaction from my mother when I wrote down and shared with her the points against the WT. She believes (almost exactly as your mother does) that I'm actively seeking information against the WT to justify living a sinful life. Eventually I stopped trying, because, yeah I do want to live what the WT considers a "sinful life". There's no logic that can get through.

  • oompa
    oompa

    You have won. Go for the guilt. Let her know how much you appreciate your upbringing and that she did do a good job as is reflected by your christian life now and yes remind her of it. Then tell her how hurt you are by pouring your heart out in the letter, and that you had prayed to Jehovah the ENTIRE time you wrote it....Now make her promise to read it three times and look up every scripture.

    I guess I think you did enough with your effort and now need to make her work...oompa

  • Open mind
    Open mind

    IMHO, your talents are better used talking to whatever guy happens to pick up the phone in the Service Department. (Which, BTW, I thoroughly enjoyed listening to.) Seriously. At least it's his job to sort of, halfway, give you some kind of answer.

    You're probably not the right person to be able to reach your Mom. You're too far gone in her mind. Her walls of self-preservation and Borg loyalty are already up when she talks to you, so you can't get in.

    Anyone else who can "work" on her? A caring neighbor or non-JW acquaintance? If they are asking "puzzled" sincere questions, she might be more inclined to actually think about what she's being asked. With them she's got an obligation to witness to them.

    Just my $.02.

    Open Mind

  • Scully
    Scully
    She claims that I would LOVE to find something that proves the Watchtower to be false...because then that would allow me to live whatever lifestyle that I choose. The thing is, I don't live a questionable lifestyle. I life an upstanding Christian life. I help those in need when I can. I don't drink, smoke, swear. I read the Bible daily and strive to live my life by it's principles. In fact, if I were an active Witness right now, with my current lifestyle, I would be considered exemplary and in "good standing".

    They say this because it is the only way they can rationalize anyone's decision to leave The Truthâ„¢. They've had it Inculcatedâ„¢ into them that there is no good reason for anyone to quit being a JW. There is no option available for anyone to have conscientious objection to the WTS's teachings or practices. You cannot simply quit without your motives being suspect, the same way you could quit a job or even retire after putting in years of service, without any negative implications being associated with it.

    They can't fathom that there are positive alternatives to being a JW, because that would mean those alternatives are at least on par with, if not ultimately superior to, the JW belief system.

  • reneeisorym
    reneeisorym

    I know it has been said but she is just conditioned to believe that if you aren't JW, you are wicked and live a sinful life.

    Just keep living the life like you are becaues it will puzzle her one day. I know it does my family. It says volumes to them when they see you carry on living a moral life and are not a JW. It is the only way to communicate to them that you left the JWs because you believe they are not God's organization and not because you wanted to live a crazy life.

  • skeeter1
    skeeter1

    I get the same response - I'm just looking to find anything wrong with the Society, I don't want others telling me what to do, and I'd rather be with the world.....

    My response, "Guilty, Father"

    Skeeter

  • restrangled
    restrangled

    DB...

    She is restating what she has been told to believe. Despite being presented with legitamite evidence....our parents cannot accept it...mine is 73 still waiting on the 1914 generation will no pass aways thing.

    My mother (after all she has been told and confronted with) made the comment to me..."Oh I was just on a study with a girl your age (48) who is coming back in. It reminded me of you....sniff sniff, sigh."

    I snickered and said "oh really" and then changed the subject...In my own mind I thought...I wonder if this girl has found or is on JWD. Damn,...... that stuff is hard to hear.

    Take care dear.

    r.

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