Dr. Evil and World Domination....Serious Post Actually

by oompa 10 Replies latest watchtower bible

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  oompa

  The Insight book says:

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  The events that took place from and after the year 1914 C.E. are well-known history to all, beginning with the great war that erupted, the first world war in mankind’s history and the first to be fought over the issue, not of the domination of Europe alone, nor of Africa, nor of Asia, but of thedominationoftheworld.—Lu 21:7-33; Re 11:15-18; see LAST DAYS; PRESENCE

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  I love history, but am a little shaky on this claim. I thought Rome and Greece wanted world domination, and thay guy in Austin Powers too. Is there any historical claim by any of the nations at THAT time that they were out to conquer the world? ............................back to my fembots........oompa
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  SacrificialLoon

  Alexander the Great wanted to rule the world, but his army got a bit mutinous and he headed back home after fighting the Indians (the south Asian kind)he was supposedly making plans to conquer lands to the west when he fell ill and died. With Rome every time they destroyed an enemy there was always a new one to take its place so they had to keep conquering to defend Rome. :)
  
  Genghis Khan of course, and I think Tamerlane also had visions of world domination. There's been lots of rulers who wanted to rule the known world before modern times.
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  sweetface2233

  I never thought about it, but you're right. You'd think, though, that I would have questioned that in Sophomore World History Class, Mr Roach always liked a good argument. Nah, I was sleeping in the back of the room w/ the other slackers.
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  SacrificialLoon

  I almost forgot one of the first recorded kings, Sargon. So ever since man has had organized states there have been those who wanted to rule everything.
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  Liberty

  You are soooo right to be skeptical of this claim oompa. Many historians consider the Napoleononic conflicts of the early 1800's to be the real "first world war". Most of the participants that were involved in these wars are the same as the official WWI except for their alliance changes. The Mongals were also certainly interested in world domination and perhaps even killed more people than those killed in WWI.

  The concept of 1914 being a "world turning point" date is really unique to the Watch Tower Society and reveals the limited and outdated view of the creator of this concept for the JWs, namely Fred Franz, who was stuck in and obsessed with his own Generation's life and times (the now extinct 1914 Generation). WWII is a far better "world turning point" and would make a far better starting point for any "End Times" prophecy fulfillment if we were inclined to believe in such nonsense. WWII makes WWI look like a rough brawl by comparison in the conext of sheer brutality, deaths, civilian victims, and mass destruction, not to mention the invention and use of nuclear weapons which were for the first time really capable of some world wide effect.
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  oompa

  I also forgot........the Romulans would count since they wanted to rule the universe.....oompa
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  emy the infidel

  I guess Germany and England were arguing about South American, then the Germans sank the Lusitania in 11/14. The US policy was to stay out of it until Germany appeared to be on the verge of victory.

  ---From the book Don't Tread On Me by H.W. Crocker III

  Chancellor Georg Hertling stated: "At the beginning of July, 1918, I was convinced...that before the 1st of Sept. our adversairies would send us peace proposals...We expected grave events in Paris for the end of July. That was on the 15th. On the 18th even the most optimistic of us knew that all was lost. The history of the world was played out in 3 days."

  The German army had eviscerated Russia. It had crumpled Serbia, Romania, and Italy. It had demoralized the armies of France. And yet, on the western front--now the decisive front--the bulldog British and the hard charging Americans held the line and then advanced, shifting the tide so that imminent German domination of the European continent became imminent German defeat."

  The book goes into great detail about the battles.
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  OnTheWayOut

  The article you quote has many flaws.

  According to Wikipedia:

  On the 28 June1914, Gavrilo Princip, a Bosnian Serb student, killed Archduke Franz Ferdinand, heir to the Austro-Hungarian throne, in Sarajevo. Princip was a member of Young Bosnia, a group whose aims included the unification of the South Slavs and independence from Austria-Hungary. The assassination in Sarajevo set into motion a series of fast-moving events that eventually escalated into full-scale war. Austria-Hungary demanded action by Serbia to punish those responsible, and when Austria-Hungary deemed Serbia had not complied, declared war. Major European powers were at war within weeks because of overlapping agreements for collective defense and the complex nature of international alliances.

  That is the well-known history. The INSIGHT volume doesn't dispute the events.
  Careful phrasing makes the reader believe that world domination was the well-known reason for the war.
  Notice your quoted sentence is a run-on. Break it down the way they want you to read it (but not by what
  is actually said)-

  The events that took place from and after the year 1914 C.E. are well-known history to all.
  The well-known events begin with the great war that erupted.
  It is well-known that this great war was the first world war in mankind’s history.
  It is well-known that this great war was the first to be fought over the issue of the domination of the world.

  Now, I will write the sentences the way they could read without telling the reader how to think:

  The events that took place from and after the year 1914 C.E. are well-known history to all.
  
  The well-known events begin with the eruption of what was then called The Great War.
  
  It is well-known that The Great War was later called World War One, even though the entire
  world was not involved.
  
  Some historians and others argue that this Great War was fought over the issue of the domination of the world.
  Others say that it just an escalated war because of the complex nature of the international alliances
  in place in Europe (see Wikipedia above).
  
  Others say that wars had been fought before The Great War which involved the goal of world domination.
  Those that say this would include various wars fought by Atilla the Hun, Napoleon, the Roman Empire, Alexander
  the Great, Nebuchadnezzar, Ghangis Khan, the Vikings and others.
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  oompa

  EMY: shifting the tide so that imminent German domination of the European continent became imminent German defeat."

  Emy, you obviously are apostate and have found some vague apostate bile to re-print. The Insight book clearly stated:

  the first world war in mankind’s history and the first to be fought over the issue, not of the domination of Europe alone,

  so cut it out and stick with the program.....give me real evidence.....WT evidence.......oompa
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  emy the infidel

  Oompa-- LOL yeah, I didn't know what an "apostate" I was till I came here! Thought Criminal! Disputing the veracity and properness of the proper food at any time.

  OTWO--great points. I didn't recognize the condescending and manipulative tone (who says it's a well known fact?) of that clip fully until your breakdown.