THAT'S IT!!!!!! I HAVE PROOF, THE END IS HERE!!!!!!!!

by whereami 16 Replies latest jw friends

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  nvrgnbk

  I respect your position, BA.

  I think you're trying to be a winner in what you believe to be an upcoming "game".

  No one can be faulted for that.

  I really respect you're admitting that the "breakdowns" we are witnessing are common to all of human history.

  Do you think there is more or less exploitation of women and children today compared to past centuries?

  I mean that in real terms, not focusing on rap videos or random cases of child abductions sensationalized by the media, though they be tragic and horrible nonetheless.

  Have any improvements been made in the way the races interact, or are we where we were four hundred years ago?
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  marmot

  My take on the situation is that we're going to see something similar to the fall of the Roman Empire.
  
  It wasn't a spectacular collapse, but was gradual and lasted many decades, centuries even. The world slid into a "dark age" but humanity was still alive and kicking. Later, an entirely new cultural paradigm (god I hate using that word) emerged built on the eroded ruins of Roman culture.
  
  Rome was very similar in a certain aspect to the United States. It emerged from the values of a preceding culture (Greece for Rome, the British Empire for USA) and proved vastly more successful than its predecessor only to collapse under its own weight.
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  Brother Apostate

  Do you think there is more or less exploitation of women and children today compared to past centuries?

  That is a really big question. "Exploitation" can be, and is, somewhat elusive to truly uncover. Aren't we all "exploited" in some way, shape, or form throughout history? How do you define "slavery" isn't that the greatest form of explotation?

  Rather than get too long-winded, I'll simply state my beliefs. Things have changed little since the beginning of civilization, other than the way politics, religion, education, economics/mercantilism/consumerism, etc are marketed to the common man. If you scrape away the exterior, what is diffeent between the Middle Ages feudal sytem of Kings, Lords, Dukes...serfs, compared with today's Billionaires, Millionaires...wage slaves? It's the same sytem sold to us in a different way. It's very convincing that it is different because from an early age we are indoctrinated by an eduucational sytemm that tells us about how different it is. When you've learned enough through life's experience, if you continue to educate yourself by life's experience, always seeking knowledge and answers, you begin to see how the ruse works. The more you study history and compare with our day, the more you see the same sytems put in place for control of the masses, so that the fortunate few at the top of the political-financial, etc empire can retain their "rule" and subjugation of the masses. So, it comes back to "nothing new under the sun", I guess.

  Have any improvements been made in the way the races interact, or are we where we were four hundred years ago?

  I think that what happened in New Orleans post-Katrina answered that question better than I could hope to. All we need is a major disater like that on a large scale, and we'll all see just how much race relations, and human nature have really changed. Once the monetary systems collapse, it's going to be like post-Katrina worldwide times 100. No police, no military, no one to stop the madness. The markets, the Fed, and all the King's horses can only put lipstick on this pig for so long before it's "game over". That's not even taking into account the ecological collapse of this planet. I don't know the day nor the hour, but that day is coming.

  BA- Preparing for that day.
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  5go

  -the world monetary/financial systems are falling apart,

  Totally agree

  -the world ecological/climate systems are falling apart,

  What finally woke you up to that?

  -the world political systems are falling apart,

  Nope Europe, Japan, and China are doing quite fine it is because you live in the US the country I vote most likely to disapear, or change drasticaly in the next decade.

  -the world educational systems are falling apart,

  Agin nope you live in the US which is having problem the rest of the world seem to be OK.

  -and the world religious systems are falling apart.

  Hell no! They are getting much stronger with the major exception of christianity. Which really christianity can't get any stronger.

  That is simply based on my reading the news, watching what is happening within all these systems.

  Ditto
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  orbison11

  marmot---that is exactly what i tell my clients, we have great conversations re this topic

  the 'family' breakdown of the roman empire was its default,,much like usa today

  ok, shoot me all now lol

  orb
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  5go

  the 'family' breakdown of the roman empire was its default,,much like usa today

  Like much like today family breakdown has nothing to do with it. The Roman empire fell because it could no longer intimidate other peoples into submission to Rome do to spreading their legions to thin. Much like the US can no longer use it's military force to intimidate other countries into submission because the US's military is spread to thin.
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  worldtraveller

  Hey 5go. You are wasting your breath. He doesn't get it. The reason the US is in trouble is because China is on the verge of owning the US. They are wasting money on a war that was never needed. Instead the crack pot leaders are spending money they will never be able to pay back. China may not be able to make anything safe, but boy is it gaining financial momentum. He reminds me of that blathering idiot Glen Beck-yada yada yada. Oh and George, you just made all Canadians about 35% richer. We Canadians coast to coast thank you, eh!!!