JW's Celebrating De Facto Thanksgiving

by TMS 18 Replies latest jw friends

  • TMS
    TMS

    Perhaps one of the most innocuous of the "pagan" holidays witnesses are taught to avoid is the American holiday
    of Thanksgiving. Without going into the Thanksgiving story, if there is one, be assured that JW children steadfastly
    avoid drawing turkeys and pilgrims for school credit in late November. Probably the best explanation these young
    ones can give their peers for non-participation is that it's "against their religion". I doubt congregation elders
    could clearly explain their anti-thanksgiving stand if called upon.

    With that backdrop, my extended family, all strong JW's, celebrated a de facto Thanksgiving during my teen years
    and probably even after I left to pioneer in the extremities. I was a 4th generation JW on my father's side, a 3rd on
    my mother's. Each side had an anointed patriarch, matriarch. Attending the dinner were the equivalent of elders, an ex-
    circuit, zone servant, etc., and their offspring.

    My affable Uncle Gene and his Catholic wife Ann hosted the event. They owned the largest home in our extended family, a
    house Gene had built with his own hands. Gene, too, had been raised a JW, actually serving time in the penetentiary during
    WWII for his refusal to bear arms. After prison, he never went back to the religion. Gene had a ready laugh, would talk
    about anything but religion. He treated my anointed grandfather A.J. with deep respect calling on him to say "grace" on the
    meal. What a meal it was! Ann singlehandedly made every conceivable dish. She tried to accommodate individual "favorites".

    Anyone viewing this gathering on Thanksgiving Day would see it for what it actually was. But, as JW's, we rationized it on
    so many levels: turkey was "cheap". Everyone is off work. While the "girl's wash dishes, let's see what's on TV(football). My
    relatives Russ, Roselie, Joe, Doris, any of us would have been horrified to think anyone would view this as compromising our
    faith.

    As an adult with my own family, we followed the same tradition. I always bought a turkey near Thanksgiving. It was cheap or
    even "free" with purchase. We might have cooked it a day or so early, but we always had leftovers at least during NFL football.

    Any other JW's do similarly?

    tms

    ps: My uncle Gene became very successful in business, although he lived beneath his means. He routinely flew associates to
    Alaska on fishing trips. He crashed his plane into Puget Sound in the 70's. Ann was left with the two children they adopted
    and a surprise son of their own.

  • nvrgnbk
    nvrgnbk

    I always enjoy your writing, TMS.

    Any other JW's do similarly?

    The English-speaking in my area do.

    The more literal-minded Spanish-speaking brothers and sisters find it highly offensive.

    Don't ask them to explain why.

    LOL!

  • mrsjones5
    mrsjones5

    Yep, mine did too.

  • R.F.
    R.F.

    My parents did, and so did many other local JWs.

    Some would say..."well no one can tell me what I can and can't cook on Thanksgiving!"

  • choosing life
    choosing life

    I faithfully refused to attend thanksgiving dinner with my family for many years. Then I found out that many so called "strong witnesses" were doing just that. They may have done it a day late , but it was still the same. I found out that an elder and ms celebrated Thanksgiving on the proper date every year because their mother-in-law was married to an unbeliever and he as her head had a right to insist on her preparing the meal. Somehow, that excused their participation too.

    I asked several ones after that what exactly was wrong with Thanksgiving anyway. No one could come up with any kind of logical or scriptural answer. One lady told me that since all the other holidays were bad, she just threw that one out too, to avoid confusing her children. What?

    After that, I went to my mother's house with my children every year. My husband still refused to go. I was never too good at that submission thing.

  • Warlock
    Warlock

    TMS

    EVERY YEAR, BROTHER.

    EVERY YEAR.

    Warlock

  • Pioneer Spit...oh, i mean Spirit
    Pioneer Spit...oh, i mean Spirit

    Of course. Our family was the super spiritual pioner/elder concoction, of course we did Thanksgiving, we were taught to logic that 'it was just turkey and mashed pots and cranberry sauce and all the trimmings, what else would we have with turkey. . .so everyone's off work, when would we invite 20 of our closest friends over-when they're AT work?'

  • steve2
    steve2

    Thanksgiving is a non-event in New Zealand...obviously; but, sure, I agree it is a lot less "innocuous" than other holidays or celebrations on offer throughout the year. After decades of business pressure, one of your imports, Halloween, is showing increasing signs of being more celebrated in my part of the world. Surely one of the weirder exports from the States! In my opinion, parents would have to be absolutely nuts to send their children door-t0-door trick or treating...quite apart from the bizarre buy-in into something some patently witchophobic.

    I have just returned from Japan and was astonished by how taken the Japanese have become over the years in celebrating Halloween, with Japanese Baskin Robbins even had ice-cream flavours reflecting pumpkin themes! That's over the top. I wondered too whether this puzzling Japanese affection for Halloween might be because the pumpkins look like oriental lanterns from a distance? Who knows. More relevantly, I daresay the JWs are as inconsistent as most humans are and there are undoubtedly JWs the world over who quietly celebrate their local communities festivities. Years ago my staunch JW aunty proved she had a heart afterall when she baked my 13 year-old cousin a cake for her birthday. Sorry, aunty, but even though you left off the candles, you still run the risk of others calling it a birthday cake.

    I understand that loyally attending the Watchtower study the very week you craftily celebrate some worldly festivity is enough to soothe Jehovah's jealous rage. He seems just a little more understanding these days.

  • sacrebleu
    sacrebleu

    I got baptized at 16 and went without Thanksgiving along with all the rest. Married to an "unbeliever" I had turkey day with his parents each year. My sister and her family have a non-thanksgiving dinner every year for all the reasons you noted.

    My unbelieving husband always said that any meal you eat on thanksgiving day is the thanksgiving meal. He had a droll sense of humor and a cool logic. I agreed with him.

    I didn't realize my sister has a huge turkey in November for a long time until she told me.

    sacrebleu

  • sir82
    sir82

    Just make sure you cook the turkey on Friday, not Thursday!

    That way it's not "really" Thanksgiving.

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