Welcome Elyse !!!
Full Blown Raging Ground-Pawing Publication-Quoting Anti-Watchtower Society Apologist on this end of the keyboard.
Da udder brudders up in NYC call me the evil slave; the apostate from hell; the dark prince; the pawn of satan
by Elyse867 46 Replies latest jw friends
Welcome Elyse !!!
Full Blown Raging Ground-Pawing Publication-Quoting Anti-Watchtower Society Apologist on this end of the keyboard.
Da udder brudders up in NYC call me the evil slave; the apostate from hell; the dark prince; the pawn of satan
welcome mate!!! i'am still an active JW never been marked or DFship or anything like that but just concelled a few time for non-threatning stuff. u can read my previous posts to find out. i'm going through the same things u are. but the hardest part of searching is knowing where to start first.
XOCO
welcome elyse867...
forgot who said this...
You will find no judgment here. We are all fellow travelers
Generally true...but dont wear your feelings on your sleeve either. You all know what I speak of...... lol
I am a former elder, pioneer,....raised in the truth dubbie... began fading in January 07...walked away from good in September. Not DA/DF...not playing the game anymore.
so...pull up a log, grab a cold beer, sit around the virtual campfire, and tell us your story...
SnakesInTheTower (of the "finally walked away from the Borg" Sheep Class)
Thanks everyone!
So here's my story: (((Warning... LONG, but if you want to get to know me, read on!)))
I was raised a JW all my life. I'm the last of 6 kids in my family. My parents are both JWs. My dad was an elder for like 20 years, all the while, an abusive alcoholic, beating my mom and older brothers and sisters. (the beating started on my sis when she was 6 months old) By the time I was born, my parents were worn out with kids (my oldest sis is 18 years older than me)and didn't beat me... I was just neglected completely. My household was weird... mom and dad lived in the same house, yet litarally didn't speak a word to each other, and slept in seperate bedrooms. If I was caught talking to dad, (which was useless, since he walked in from work drunk, then passed out on the couch) I'd get in trouble with mom... What a wonderful Christian household. Anyway, parents got divorced finally when I was 5, mom got DFd, and moved in with her boyfriend. So I was persueded by my older siblings to live with drunk-ass dad, since he was still the upstanding Christian. Anyway, childhood sucked.... blah blah blah. Dad found someone to love him, and got married. Somehow he was able to quit the booze, for her... not for his kids... anyway, household got 'better' and I (stupidly) got baptized at 14. I struggled and was reproved several times over the next few years. Mom got reinstated and I moved back in with her. I struggled a little more... I was 16, done with school and bored, and she wouldn't let me get a job or go to college. I started dating my now hubby, whom I'd known from the KH since I was little, and who happened to be 11 years older than me. Mom didn't like that and told me she was going to 'send' me to my idiot father's house to live. He called me and told me to leave my 'slutty clothes, demonic music, and all drug paraphenelia' when my mom brings me. And mentioned that he didn't want me either. I wasn't a bad kid. I didn't listen to 'demonic music.' Sure, I smoked a little pot, but who hasn't? :) Anyway, I promptly gathered up my things, and met my now hubby outside. (I ran away, okay?) Turns out, my parents didn't even look for me. Hubby and I got married after I got emancipated, and then we decided to go to meetings. I got pregnant 2 months after we got married, so then the rumors started that we "had" to get married because I was PG. Anyway, we both got DFd in an Fd up way, and got reinstated a year later, to have contact with our families. That's been almost 6 years ago, and we both have pretty much abandoned the 'truth.' My mom lives with us now, LOL we're helping her out, since her x-husband is an idiot and left her with nothing. Nice that us non-witnesses can do more for our family when they need us. ANYWAY, my hubby (an x MS) and I are both just kind of floating around... wondering what to do, what to believe in...
Things that get me about the WTS:
The whole beard thing... they'll at least reprove you over that where I live..
The birthday thing...
Job 1:4,5 says "And his sons went and held a banquet at the house of each one on his own day; and they sent and invited their three sisters to eat and drink with them. 5 And it would occur that when the banquet days had gone round the circuit, Job would send and sanctify them; and he got up early in the morning and offered up burnt sacrifices according to the number of all of them; for, said Job, “maybe my sons have sinned and have cursed God in their heart.” That is the way Job would do always."
How do we know that 'his own day' means their BIRTHDAY??? Job 3:1-3 says:
"It was after this that Job opened his mouth and began to call down evil upon his day. 2 Job now answered and said:
3 “Let the day perish on which I came to be born,
Also the night that someone said, ‘An able-bodied man has been conceived!’
Also the whole 'everything that's pagan is bad' thing....
What about wedding ceremonies... the rings, the dress, the bridal party, the honeymoon, the cake, the flowers, etc. ALL PAGAN
Pagan is pagan... don't make exceptions.
The whole time sheet BS. Jesus didn't turn in time, he wouldn't expect any of his desciples (sp?) to, and he wouldn't counsel them if they got less than 10 hours.
The 'don't get a higher education' thing. F THAT. ALL my brothers and sisters (except the one smart one who did anyway) are stuggeling now, because they don't have the schooling they need to make it in life)
The 'extra curricular activities are bad' thing... F THAT too. God gave us all talents! Why is it wrong to explore them??? I've always wished I could dance, or play music, or something...
The general population of Witnesses where we live SUCK. Sure, there are the genuine sweet, well meaning JWs. Bu a LOT of them where we live are back-stabbing, judgmental, gossiping, hypocritical mean people who look down their nose at everyone who isn't labeled as 'in good standing.'
Anyway, my 5 year old had his first birthday party at 4, and it felt so good. He's been in dance classes (his passion) since he was 2, and is excelling so much. He competes in national dance competitions and loves every minute of it. What HURTS is when he asks why Grandma doesn't come to his birthdays, and this:
I was attending one of my son's competitions last year, and was super excited and pumped for him. His cousin was dancing in her group right before my son went on. I looked over and say my sister-in-law with her mother (an x-JW) who is the grandma of the cousin plus my sister in law's sisters, and their families... the grandma was crying, as well as the sisters, to see their little one up there. When the dance was over they all jumped up and cheered. My son came on, and I was so proud I was also crying... but I realized it was just me and my hubby standing there... and I was so upset. WHY WHY WHY can't my mother be a freaking grandma, and BE THERE for her grandson??? WTF? Anyway, I wish I was never raised this way... I'm constantly filled with guilt... my family doesn't really speak to each other (we live all over the country, probably resulting from efforts trying to run away from the BS) plus, now that my mom lives with us, we just celebrate what we want, but just don't say anything to my mom. My kids aren't allowed to talk to my mom about birthdays or holidays... we snuck out of the house last week to go trick-or-treating, our first time. I know my mom knows, but we have that wierd don't ask don't tell relationship. I HATE feeling like I'm going to be in trouble in my own house. I know if I were to decorate or put up a tree this Christmas, my mom would all but disown me... So we celebrate at my friend's house every year with her family... Ugh.. sorry. (((vent)))
Hello elyse867 . Welcome to the shrine of the infidel . The abode of the apostate , The alcove of the athiest , and The solace of the true believer.
Oh yea the armpit of insanity and the crotch of rightiousness in near here too!!
Current inmate of both asylums:
Kingdom Hall & JWD.
:-)
Open Mind
(3rd gen JW, loyal-dub wife w/non-baptized kids)
Exactly my case. Elder as well?
LOL @ "crotch of righteousness"
Howdy and Welcome!
I am an "independent thinker" sitting in my KH seat......
I know where the exits are located but unable to navigate my way beyond the parking lot.....
Sit a spell and spill you guts, it ain't just in your head or a "local" problem..
Y
Hi Elyse,
Welcome keep posting, you will find kind and friendly people here. I agree about the education thing, why not go back to college. Having relatives living with you who are jw living with you trying.
llbh
Welcome to the forum and thank you for sharing your story with us.