How Many Are...Or Have Been Going To Therapy?

by new boy 17 Replies latest jw friends

  • new boy
    new boy

    I only went twice right before I left in 2001.

    My then JW wife.... thought in would be a good idea. She thought all "my angry issuses" were against my dead Nazis JW mother.....They were really about me living a LIE for over 10 years..

    So anyway...I went to this DR. and in just 2 visits, told him my whole life story,begining to end. He did't really say very much.

    At the end of the whole thing I said "Well Doc...you can see that I'm pretty much screwed no matter what I do...If I stay in the cult I'm screwed...and if I leave I'm screwed!

    To which he said...shaking his head....."Yep...your right!"

    His words were right....there would be pain either way I went.....but the "light went on." There was just something about me telling a stranger about my crazy life as a Jehovah's Witness. How, the religion treated me and my family. The fear and gulit we had.....telling all these things to a total stranger.....Me just listening to my own words come out of my mouth....trying to make my life "sound Normal"....As if to say it's no big deal I can live with it...

    I knew I could no longer live in this hell, I created for myself...Even with the possibity of losing just about everything....I knew I couldn't sit on the fence any longer....

    As they say "Get busy living or...get busy dying"

    Was it easy....No...did I lose all the things I "thought" were important to me .....but really weren't, yes... with the exception of my two wonderful children, who left the borg too.

    If I could go back and change it......would I?.....Not for one minute....The gains far out weight the loses!

    So yes...Therapy....could be a good thing.

  • reneeisorym
    reneeisorym

    I went to therapy after leaving. It helped me SO much. Mostly just because I learned how to think like a real person and not like a cult member. There was something so wonderful about hearing a sane person helping me to see what normal thought and what was wrong and coming from my past. She helped me overcome the scars.

  • bigmouth
    bigmouth

    About 10 years of near continuous therapy and hospitalization new boy and it was extremely difficult but nothing good was going to happen until I did it.

    It took me more than 8 years before I could even speak of being a JW to a therapist or group such was my fear of ....of something.

    Being here on JWD was the catalyst to unlearn all of my unhelpful thinking and behaviour as a Witness.

    Been out of hospital 2 years now!

    Pete

  • ChelseaScott
    ChelseaScott

    I remember when my mom, brother and myself were all on the way out (just before we actually did leave), my mom thought it was a good idea for us all to go to therapy. However the "elders" though it was a horrible idea! They thought it was brain washing (how very hypocritical). They basically said they rather see all of us on some sort of medication instead.

    In the end when we did leave, all three of us went to councelling / therapy. I feel it certainly helped. I remember feeling oh so guilty, that Jehovah was going to strike me down where I stood. It felt fantastic to get rid of that guilt. I can say, since leaving I have never been happier. I have great friends, a great family (minus my dad and his side of the family who have disowned me) and well, just a great life. Lovin' every minute of it!

  • sacrebleu
    sacrebleu

    When I was so miserable because of health issues, two small children (one had major health issues) and being isolated in a community outside of town with no car during the day I got really depressed.

    Looking back now, I probably also had some post-natal depression as well as depression about doubting the JW garbage. I eventually became just about agoraphobic. When I approached my NON-JW perfectionist hubby about getting some therapy, his reaction was much like the elders would have been IF I'd asked them (which I didn't) He said, "NOT MY WIFE!!!!!!!!!"

    Pride can be bad, huh? I guess he thought it would make HIM look bad or something. ANYWAY, I decided if I was ever going to be better I would have to start somewhere. I could not go out to get the mail until the mail man had left our circle and all the other ladies had gone back in the house. I knew I didn't want to live that way or get worse.

    I had sold Avon in the past so I signed up again and at the first door, the lady just bought something because she felt sorry for me. But I kept it up and got over most of my fear. Soon I was cold calling on all my neighbors and making friends and a few dollars.

    Then I signed up for a General Psychology course. It was the best thing ever!!! I learned all about how big corporations control their work forces by keeping them busy with new and exciting projects. It's called Mass Behavior Modification. A 1000 watt light bulb went off and it was just one more thing to help me out of the borg.

    I hate to admit it still took some other things and more time to get completely out, but it did help. Then when I became disabled in 2003, I went to a counselor ( I divorced the hubby who would not "let" me go to the counselor and remarried someone more understanding). I saw a counselor because it was very hard to deal with the sudden weakness and disability. It really does a number on your self-esteem to be raised blue-collar and with no patience for "lazy" people and then end up disabled.

    Anyway, the main reason she was able to help me is that she herself was disabled. We also dealt with the issues of coming out of the borg. But this brings up a question. The main reason she could help me is that she had been through a similar experience. I guess any counselor can help you see how you have been screwed over and help you figure out what to do about it, but I would love to meet one who knows more about cults in general and JWs in particular. There is no one in my area.

    There is no insurance or $$$ for it either and the only free one here doesn't impress me much. I know some of his clients and they don't seem to get any better. But if there was someone I could talk to about some of the specific problems relating to losing family members, I would try to go.

    I HAVE received help from the local Celebrate Recovery group. It IS Christian based so some of you might not be interested. But I learned that when I continue to try to convince my JW sisters that I am a worth-while person I am being co-dependent. I am learning healthier behavior And I am making TRUE, REAL FRIENDS who dont' try to control me and they help me in my fight to recover the self-esteem and well being I lost with all the stuff that has happened to me. I would recommend it to anyone.

    sacrebleu

  • VoidEater
    VoidEater

    After not participating for about 10 years, I finally started therapy at 30 years of age. It was a difficult 15 years: sexual abuse, shunning of my dad (and family), screwed up/controlled worldview...but, through good therapists and bad, I got what I needed...

  • ChelseaScott
    ChelseaScott

    One of the main things I learned through therapy and well just living it is, family isn't always who you are related to. Family are the people, blood related or not, who care about you and who are there for you. Honestly the only blood relatives I have that haven't basically disowned me are my mom and brother. Everyone else I consider family, are great friends and people I have met since leaving the religion. I would love to still be incontact with my blood relatives, however they obviously don't feel the same and are to brainwashed and blind to see what really matters. Just because I am not in some silly religion where I go to meetings 2 times a week, book studys and door to door, doesn't make me a bad person. I still have beliefs and my own idea of faith, they are just different. I don't need some organization to tell me how to be a good person and live my life.

  • V1710
    V1710

    I began counseling in the early 90's against the advice of the elders. it was the best thing i ever did for myself. i didn't go when i first was diagnosed with depression because i was afraid i was crazy. but the person whom i counseled with was soooooo underdstanding and kind. he helped me heal from child abuse issues, helped me end a stupid marriage and leave jw's. he never told me to do any of those things, just helped me to think and make decisions for myself. the hardest thing about therapy was ending it. really miss having someone to listen for an hour without judgement, or changing the subject but always feel stronger when i work things out on my own.

  • new boy
    new boy

    It is interesting....84 hits in 5 hours....

    I guess the vast majority don't think therapy is all that important.

    I know I haven't shaken off all my demons and think both my kids and me could use more therapy now...more then ever.

  • John Doe
    John Doe

    I went to counseling for a couple years, but I won't bore anyone with the details. ;-)

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