A Jewish President? (page 4)

Jourles

Tula,

Anyway, if you want the whole story you can go to:http://www.truthorfiction.com/rumors/o/obama-salute.htm
And by the way...this photo is for real. He did not salute or acknowledge national anthem.

You're playing into the chain email originator's and conservative spin doctor's hands. True, the photo is real, but the message is not. The National Anthem nor the Pledge of Allegiance was sung or spoken. The original chain email should have given a head's up to most readers with its use of these words:

Obama’s middle name is “Hussein” and says he “REFUSED TO NOT ONLY PUT HIS HAND ON HIS HEART DURING THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE, BUT REFUSED TO SAY THE PLEDGE.....how in the hell can a man like this expect to be our next Commander-in-Chief????”

Appeal to emotions based on lies. What other reason would there be to bring up his middle name? Hussein? Saddam Hussein...Barack Hussein...Oh shit! This dude could be a tyrant/dictator/terrorist! I can't believe some people are still influenced by this crap(not saying you are).

If you want to hear for yourself what was going on at the time this photo was taken, watch this video:

http://abcnews.go.com/Video/playerIndex?id=3759803

It was the Star Spangled Banner which was being sung. Here is a more balanced article of the event. I would suggest that everyone read it. Did you know that the SSB was originally a drinking song? In that case, I would chastise all of the candidates for not holding up a mug of cider and swaying with the words.

Warlock

Keep in mind, the current President of the United States of America thinks God talks to him.

And the previous President carried a HUGE fucking Bible, while people in Burundi and Rwanda hacked each other to death.

Warlock

Jourles

And the previous President carried a HUGE f*****g Bible,

But still, the difference between the two is glaring:

Bush: “I trust God speaks through me. Without that, I couldn’t do my job.’’

Clinton: "I like sex. I love to get my freak on."

If I had to choose between two men as president and one said God speaks through him and the other liked to get his freak on, I'd pick the freaky one any day. (ok, ok - the first quote is real; the second one, well, you figure it out)

Satanus

Warlock

'And the previous President carried a HUGE fucking Bible, while people in Burundi and Rwanda hacked each other to death.'

Hmm. Trying to figure out the connection between the two. AAh, my brain is starting to hurt. I give up. Can you explain?

S

Junction-Guy

nvrgnbck, I can not support gay marriage. It seems so unnatural to me, it is something I cant even fathom.

yes you are correct that I have had some gay issues I have dealt with myself, but I dont connect in any way,shape, or form with the gay community or its lifestyle.

nvrgnbk

nvrgnbck, I can not support gay marriage. It seems so unnatural to me, it is something I cant even fathom.

yes you are correct that I have had some gay issues I have dealt with myself, but I dont connect in any way,shape, or form with the gay community or its lifestyle.

You dealt with your issues and did or did not resolve them.

I genuinely hope you are at peace with who you are.

Others have dealt with their issues and have decided that they are gay and have openly lived that lifestyle, and instead of applauding them for living authentically, you show yourself apathetic and even antipathetic to them.

That's sad on so many levels.

Do you ever listen to yourself?

Satanus

Nvr

I think you didn't understand what he is saying. He is simply saying that he's not gay, and not connected w them. He has found who he is.

S

nvrgnbk

Nvr

I think you didn't understand what he is saying. He is simply saying that he's not gay, and not connected w them. He has found who he is.

S

That's cool, Satan.

I guess I'm confused by what appears to be a lack of empathy towards those that are living a life that he once entertained living himself.

Not asking him to be gay, just not understanding what seems to be a hostile view of gay persons.

See what I'm getting at, J-G?

metatron

A Jewish President would be a very bad idea - because relations with the Muslim world are very sensitive.

I don't want an Atheist president because too many of them are 'evangelical' jerks like Dawkins.

On the other hand, our country was founded by Deists - and they acted with enormous wisdom.

metatron

Junction-Guy

nvrgnbck, I have never met one quality gay person yet, so yes I guess Im a little biased.

What I have experienced is a pseudo-homosexuality that was triggered by various things, all seemed to work in tandem. Gay people I have talked to online have tried to convince me I was born that way. They have tried to force their opinions on me and it backfired. Because if I was truly gay then there would be no way it could ever change. My same sex feelings didnt develop until almost high school, then they tapered off after I left the JW's. They re-emerged during a very lonely tumultuous time of my life.

Even after all of this I never had the desire for gay sex, mainly just an unusual type of same sex attraction.

I know full well what it was like to experience heterosexual love and it was the best feeling I have ever had. The gays will say that I was born that way, but I know otherwise.

For me, to be with a woman was the most natural feeling, it felt so right.

Even during a period of my life when I doubted the existence of God, isolated myself from my family and friends, and so on, I still sought after a heterosexual relationship. The gays will say "oh you were only trying to please your family" or "you were just afraid of going to hell" The truth was that I had already isolated myself from my family and I didnt believe in hell or maybe even a God. I was a free moral agent and yet I still sought after hetero love. I found that love when I found Amanda, and no one can tell me otherwise.

Amanda and I had alot of problems, mostly financial, but I was still living with the aftermath of my JW involvement. If things were different we might have had a decent marriage.

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