Pioneer Heavy at the Top

by OnTheWayOut 31 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

  • OnTheWayOut
    OnTheWayOut

    Virtually everybody above the rank of elder is/was a pioneer.

    You can't become a C.O. or D.O. without pioneering.
    Bethelites (even sisters who marry in) were pioneers.
    The administration is full of pioneers that worked their way up.
    Missionaries and senior overseers at all branches were
    pioneers. The Governing Body can appoint any "anointed"
    ones to their own rank, but they choose high officials who proved
    their loyalty. High officials were virtually all PIONEERS before they
    found a better job in the organization.

    That's a serious problem.
    A C.O. who managed to pioneer along with his wife, must have
    had private income or had a totally sacrificial life. He must have
    had reasonable health along with his wife in order to do this.
    Most never had children.
    About the only exception is the retired elder who starts pioneering
    then became a C.O.. As years go by, these are fewer and fewer.
    The Borg chooses younger healthier folks. The average C.O.
    cannot relate to the stressed family member or the unhealthy ones
    who miss meetings.

    Many C.O.'s know that there is no retirement fund for them. They
    will often stick to the work until they are on death's door, then hope
    a circuit will care for them. I knew a C.O. that took half of every green
    handshake and saved it. I don't know his tax liability. I am picturing a
    Buick with the trunk stuffed with hundred-dollar bills, so nothing gets claimed.
    Maybe he followed some obscure tax laws and deposited it in the bank.
    Can he relate to folks that never get money from the congregations?
    Can he understand that some mentally unstable ones NEVER get invited
    to Sister Hospitality's home for a meal? He automatically relates to the
    pioneers that sacrifice everything to keep selling magazines.

    My point is that the C.O. or D.O. who has nothing to fall back on, simply
    keeps working up the WT ladder. They want the room at Bethel or at least
    at the Convention Hall. Once these guys get higher up, they think everyone
    should be able to follow the same examples.

    Further up the ladder, all the way into the Governing Body, these guys have
    already wasted their lives slaving for WTS. That's a bunch of cognitive
    dissonance for these leaders. No wonder they can't admit they are EVER
    wrong.

    This organization made up almost entirely of pioneers (beyond the local congs.)
    is full of folks that think the evangelizing work is the measuring stick of everything.
    They think spirituality equals pioneering. They think a useless door-to-door work
    is so vital.

    A ten-hours-per-month publisher can make elder, but he ain't hardly worth trotting
    out on to the platform at a convention. A pioneer though, especially pioneer brothers
    who keep their wives out in the pioneer service- that's a shining star.

    You can see how this is going to cause the WTS to drag on with worn-out thinking
    and cause it's upper levels to stay HIGH AND MIGHTY and look down on the rest of
    them.

  • minimus
    minimus

    OTWO, very insightful thread!

    Regarding the $$$$$ the COs get, they have taken a "vow of poverty" so they are illegally taking moolah.

  • OnTheWayOut
    OnTheWayOut

    I don't know if they are illegally taking money from handouts.
    The law has some provision for it. I just don't believe that most
    C.O.'s are carefully following that law. That one I mentioned might
    have had to follow the law, as he would have a bunch of income
    (half of every dollar given) to explain.

    But I do know that U.S. law doesn't recognize a vow of poverty as
    something legally binding.

    Catholic priests write and sell their books. I knew a C.O. that
    did taxes for people. You can bet a bunch of the elders kissed his
    butt and asked him to do their Window Washing Company taxes.
    I think he declared it all, but I bet he never claimed the green
    handshakes.

  • minimus
    minimus

    OTWO, I'm confused. It's ok for these guys take cash??

  • minimus
    minimus

    Earnings are considered income that belongs to the religious order. I don't know if earning and donations or contributions to the person who takes the vow of poverty is considered to be the same thing but if it is, that money doesn't belong to the individual, it belongsd to the religious order, the WTBS.

  • OnTheWayOut
    OnTheWayOut

    It is okay to take cash. The various governments have various
    rules about it. You have to declare everything above XXXXXXX.
    You have to pay taxes on XXXXXXXX. I just doubt that too many of
    them look into it. They just pocket the money and violate the laws.
    I imagine some of them do follow the letter of the law. The beauty
    of the green handshake is that it is like finding cash, you don't even
    know for sure who lost it in your hand.

    It's no different than many others getting cash. But these are supposed
    to be the Bishops of the organization- the shining stars.

    The thread is mainly about pioneers running the entire circus. I suppose
    we cannot separate the money issue- I certainly did not. Still, let's
    generally focus on the top-heavy pioneer organization.

  • minimus
    minimus

    OK, OTWO. But since we're the only 2 on this thread, I'll say what I want.

    Just joshing.

  • OnTheWayOut
    OnTheWayOut
    I'll say what I want.

    Say away.

    I bet someone else will come along soon, and I didn't want to stay on money.

  • minimus
    minimus

    The funny thing about being a "Pioneer", is that the designation is clearly a Watchtower Society post. Yet great admiration is given to "pioneers" but I truly believe that elders are higher up on the totem pole but if you are both, you are the featured Circuit Assembly star.

  • purplesofa
    purplesofa

    Hey,

    I have noticed that some of the men that pioneer that are not elders for whatever reasons, have alot of respect in the congos, they are more compassionate and members will go to them over an elder for loving help.

    I knew I would never amount to crudola in the org as my circumstances would not allow me to pioneer. And The statement......Well, you got the pioneer spirit!!! blah, they want the hours not the spirit.

    purps

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