by wanderlustguy 12 Replies latest jw friends
There was a record high temp set today. The slopes usually open around the 1st of the month, now they expect to open the 1st of December, it's not even cold enough for making snow.
I wonder how much it's going to take for enough people to realize it's getting hotter every year to do something about it.
I guess we'll see.
WLG
There's little doubt any more that there's global warming. The questions being cast on it are this -- how much did man really cause, and is it part of an up-and-down pattern that goes on and on over the millenia? Are we being scared out of our wits by what the conservatives call "environmental whackos", or is this an irreversible trend?
I'd say that if ice shelves in the Arctic regions that were there for many centuries are disappearing, that we're an irreversible trend. I heard a scientist on a news program the other night (cannot remember which program) say that Arctic melting is accelerating, and that if it all melted the results along coastlines could be catastrophic. If the polar bears go extinct due to no ice floes to live on, that would indicate something of truly historic proportions is happening.
Again?
Warlock
That's the thing, I haven't decided if it would be happening anyway, just a little slower. Of course the record is only 60 years old...hardly a generation. Brings to mind the dust bowl, etc. Maybe just history repeating and we hear about it faster. But then there's the big ice melt...
we've got snow here. pretty normal conditions. it's cold also. in the past 25 years we had winters with no snow at all followed by winters with incredible loads of snow.
i think you can only measure global warming on glaciers and the poles. but given that they found fossils of palmtrees in antarctica, we are only facing something the earth already has seen several times. as for the dangers - humanity was not meant to stay here forever anyway.
It is a fact that human factor is the most importand issue of the global warming. The point is big oil companies, heavy industries, the destruction of a rain forests in amazon, are killing the earth. While there are many alternative energy resources, oil companies that control Goverments like Bush who even started a war to gain control on oil in Iraq, they do not feel that they are willing to give up their profit for the benefit of mankind. In this is obvious because Bush did not sign the Kyoto Treaty, and he claims that human factor is not responsible for the global warming. On the contrary it is and is obvious, just watch Al Gore in the fantastic documentry regarding global warming
Indeed we are killing our earth, but again this does not support any eschatological hysteria.
This is the problem: We are wasting oil. Look how much natural gas is burned at the wells instead of being captured for use. Look at how much oil is wasted in cars that get shamefully pathetic gas mileage. Look at how little improvement in gas mileage there has been since the 1973 energy crisis. Look at the non-progress in finding and developing large scale alternatives. Look at the one thing they are "trying", which is the most inefficient imaginable--ethanol.
Back in 1973, it was a matter of not wasting gas. Turning out lights, driving 55, and setting the thermostat to 65 in the day and 55 at night was the answer to the short-term crisis. But, in the meantime, they were supposed to do something longer-term. There is enough free energy so everyone on the planet could drive 160 MPH in SUVs the size of today's Mack Trucks, run every light in their house 24/7, get 200" plasma TV sets, blast the heat and the A/C full time, and more. But we seem hellbent on not developing these free sources. Instead, we are bent on using oil and coal.
This time, we need long-term solutions on the double. We need to open up anti-big-oil forums that would serve the same purpose as anti-Watchtower forums, and watch to see how fast our regulators get those forums shut down. We should be working on usurping whatever energy we get from hurricanes, earthquakes, volcanoes, and even global warming itself! Notice that the upper stratosphere is cooling off, creating a heat differential that could be exploited for free energy. But, instead, we are stuck in the Dark Ages of the oil era, after oil has gone out of date.
A note to politicians and oil giants: You all need to be fired now. You have been written up in 1973 and 1979, when supply disruptions caused widespread spot shortages and price spikes. But, you did nothing more than talk about alternatives. Well, instead of wasting time in the 1980s and 1990s when oil was plentiful, you sat and did nothing. Now, we are in a new energy crisis. This time, it is not a temporary situation. OPEC is not to blame this time: policymakers that keep alternative sources of energy off the market are.
This is further proof that our policymakers don't give a damn about the future of this planet, or mankind, any more than the Watchtower Society gives a damn about the future of children born and raised in the cult. Unless the regulators are impeached and the big companies lose their protective laws, we are all going down. And, belonging to any cult is not going to save anyone.
In the meantime, the Watchtower Society itself has a lot of blame. They encourage wasteful practices. They waste huge amounts of energy in getting Watchtower magazines printed up and distributed, while cutting down huge amounts of forest in the process. While the energy part could have been solved with policies that encourage competition from alternative sources, the wanton cutting down of trees for Watchtower litter-ature can not. Those trees are necessary for the future production of alternative energy sources and for removing carbon dioxide from the air. And I am still blaming the Watchtower Society for its inefficient climate control systems in their Kingdumb Hells and the wastes of gas to get back and forth to meetings and in field circus.
We're all doomed. DOOMED.
Gonna buy me a hat.
During the 1970's we were told that we would be entering a mini-ice age by the end of the century.
I watched a program last night about the earth and the effect of volcanoes. The geologist says that millions of years ago the volcanoes were spewing out tons and tons of Carbon Dioxide. But despite that the Earth totally froze over, they call it "Snowball Earth". Then the volcanoes erupting and the Earth warmed up. Then time moves on and the Earth becomes like a greenhouse and life flourishes. Then we have the Ice-Ages again.
Then another program about the Earth tells me all about the last Ice-Age 10,000 years ago. They travel all over the world showing signs of the effect of the Ice Age. Then this goeologist and that goeolist and scientists etc.... say that we are just coming to the END of the last Ice Age. Doesn't an END of an Ice Age mean that the ice is supposed to be melting??
Then I read a report about the Polar Bears. It tells me that these bears are struggling to find any ice, food and are coming into townships in Canada looking for food. But then I read an item about the town of Churchill on Hudson Bay. Polar Bears have been coming into that town for 200 years because its on their migration route. Also that the ice on that coast has been appearing earlier and earlier over the last 5 years and lasting longer.
Then another report tells me that the average World Temperature is LOWER than it was 10 years ago.
I'm beginning to think that Global Warming is the great political scare story of the century. It seems to have become the excuse to impose more and more taxes on people.
Then another report tells me that the average World Temperature is LOWER than it was 10 years ago.
Please provide the source if you are able . I'd like to see the context of this statistic.
