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by Fatfreek 29 Replies latest watchtower child-abuse

  • candidlynuts
    candidlynuts

    so the watchtower is saying that 20 years ago pedophilia was believed NOT to be dangerous to childrens emotional health?

    is the place run by a bunch of idiotic robots?

    any fool knows sexual abuse is harmful.

    this is part of the reason pedophiles enjoyed such freedom within the organization for so many years. the place is run by money hungry beaurocrats not caring and loving shepards

  • restrangled
    restrangled

    JWD was all over this back in 2002, when the WTS used the same quote from Dr. Gail Bethea-Jackson after the Dateline story hit. It's worth a look.

    http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/6/28626/1.ashx/Dr.+Bethea-Jackson

    R's Hubby

  • brinjen
    brinjen

    Yup, it's an old quote from Dr Jackson, not only recent like they are implying.

  • restrangled
  • Fatfreek
    Fatfreek

    The Society doesn't cut the Catholic Church any slack about this issue. This, from a 1990 Awake. By the way, when they speak of clergy they are not referring to themselves. Not surprising, is it?

    *** g90 12/8 p. 31 "A Sexual Crisis" Among the Clergy ***

    "A Sexual Crisis" Among the Clergy

    "A SEXUAL crisis is tearing at the central nervous system of the Catholic Church," stated Jason Berry, a Louisiana author who received a Catholic Press Association award for his coverage of pedophilia in the National Catholic Reporter. Regarding perverted sexual acts against children by the clergy, Berry went on to say in The Washington Post:

    "Since 1985, scores of pedophilia cases involving priests or brothers have been recorded throughout America and Canada. As a result, U.S. dioceses have borne steep losses in law suits, and insurance coverage for such actions has evaporated. These changes have arrived amid a number of reports that as many as 10 to 20 percent of U.S. priests may be homosexually active."

    The Providence Sunday Journal of Rhode Island states: "Bishops in 29 states . . . have faced claims of damages by victims of sex abuse by Catholic clergy, and the Church has paid at least $60 million so far in judgments and settlements." In Louisiana a priest admitted to molesting 35 boys and was sentenced to 20 years in prison, although, the Journal says, it was clear that he "had assaulted at least 75 children over 10 years." And a Rhode Island priest pleaded guilty to 26 counts of sex abuse involving young boys.

    An investigation of Covenant House, a shelter for runaway youths in New York City, revealed that the priest in charge had engaged in sexual misconduct with a number of young men and boys. And the Roman Catholic archbishop of Atlanta resigned after it was acknowledged that he had carried on a two-year sexual relationship with an unmarried mother.

    A conference of U.S. Catholic bishops received a report on the "catastrophe" of priest pedophile litigation. The 100-page report, states the Journal, "detailed a strategy for limiting the Church’s liability from civil lawsuits to $1 billion [$1,000 million] based on the 30 suits then pending." The lawsuits are being brought by the Catholic parents of the children involved. And psychiatrists who treat the young victims of these crimes report long-term, often permanent, damage.

    God’s Word speaks of such "disgraceful sexual appetites" by which males are "inflamed in their lust toward one another, males with males, working what is obscene," and adds that the "righteous decree of God" is that "those practicing such things are deserving of death."--Romans 1:26, 27, 32; see also 1 Corinthians 6:9, 10.

    Undoubtedly, much of the problem arises because of the unscriptural practice of celibacy, forbidding priests to marry. Yet, the Bible, God’s Word, states clearly that those in the Christian ministry may marry. As the Catholic Douay Version of the Bible expresses it: "It behoveth therefore a bishop to be . . . the husband of one wife." (1 Timothy 3:2) And it also states that "forbidding to marry" is an evidence that "some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to spirits of error, and doctrines of devils."--1 Timothy 4:1-3.

  • candidlynuts
    candidlynuts
    Undoubtedly, much of the problem arises because of the unscriptural practice of celibacy, forbidding priests to marry.

    wonder what psychological evaluation that came from.

    people that live a celibate life are more likely to molest a child?

  • JK666
    JK666

    What a bunch of BS. Parents didn't know the seriousness of pedophilia. How about the elders doing it, or the GB? Now it's the PARENTS fault, once again they blame the rank and file JW.

    It is amazing how they knew it was a problem for OTHER churchs back them, but their own database must not count? The Governing Body is the lyingest bunch of hypocrites on the face of the earth!!!!!!!!!!!

    And parents have always known the seriousness of child molestation. THAT IS WHY IN THE OLD DAYS THEY KILLED THEM!

    JK

  • Fatfreek
    Fatfreek

    Note the following Watchtower quotation, referring to abuse of a girl (my highlighting) and not a woman. Note, too, when this was printed -- 37 years ago. Pedophilia was not a subject that the Watchtower was silent about -- er -- when it came to other religious shepherds.

    *** w70 7/1 pp. 391-392 Priests Tell What’s Wrong with Celibacy ***

    A WRONG BASIS

    Priests also point to the erroneous thinking that contributed to the church’s adoption of the celibacy law. They note that the thinking of church leaders was dominated by the teachings of "St." Augustine, who lived from 354 to 430. This man is called, by "The Catholic Encyclopedia," "the greatest of the [Catholic] Fathers."

    Augustine had written about marriage: "I feel that nothing more turns the masculine mind from the heights than female blandishment and that contact of bodies without which a wife may not be had."

    Catholic theologian R. J. Bunnik pointed out that such views did, and still do, influence Catholic thinking. He says that Augustine bears "no small measure of responsibility for the insinuation into our culture of the idea, still widely current, that Christianity regards sexuality as something particularly tainted with evil."

    But what influenced Augustine to downgrade marriage and sex? Priests such as John O’Brien say it was the fact that Augustine had lived with a girl outside of wedlock for some eleven years. Also, Catholic law teacher John T. Noonan observes: "Having had this guilt-ridden experience of sexual intercourse in a quasi-permanent union, Augustine believed there was nothing rational, spiritual, sacramental in the act of intercourse itself."--"Why Priests Leave" (1969).

    So priests say that the celibacy law is founded on a wrong basis. Unscriptural and erroneous thinking on sex and marriage contributed toward its adoption.

    Len Miller

  • Fatfreek
    Fatfreek

    Here is the first instance of pedophilia that I can find in WT publications (Awake), this from 25 years ago. According to one of the experts they quote here, "There is an enormous increase in crimes against children.", a far cry from their expressed ignorance on their web site. If it was so enormous then, why are they feigning ignorance now?

    * ** g82 6/22 pp. 7-8 "Baby Pros" and "Kiddie Porn" ***

    ...Why such interest sexually in young children? They have been promoted by the media as sex objects. Advertisers pose them with their products, provocatively so, with windblown hair and pouting, promising lips. The young especially attract men who are afraid of adult women, psychiatrists say. The modern woman, the liberated female, equal and even a competitor, intimidates these insecure men. But the young girls, sexily attired and posed, look vulnerable, are nothing to fear, and are therefore inviting to such men. Presented as sex objects, these youngsters become sex targets.

    Derek Eaves, a forensic psychiatrist who works with sexual offenders is worried: "There is an enormous increase in crimes against children." He considers society to be in a moral crisis. A Columbia University professor says that provocatively posing little girls means "they are for sale" and is a step taken toward the destruction of Western values. Daniel Cappon, analytical psychotherapist, says: "We’ve entered the new Dark Ages of society. We’re living through the black ages of degeneracy. Darkness has descended on our psyche; people are more brutalized now than ever before." Strong language, but maybe not too strong, when you read of a thirty-three-month-old girl assaulted by a fifty-one-year-old man. Or consider the sickness that’s evident when pornographers photograph and pedophiles (those who lust after children) buy pictures of a seven-month-old girl with her legs spread apart.

    ...

    Len Miller

  • purplesofa
    purplesofa
    Why such interest sexually in young children? They have been promoted by the media as sex objects. Advertisers pose them with their products, provocatively so, with windblown hair and pouting, promising lips. The young especially attract men who are afraid of adult women, psychiatrists say. The modern woman, the liberated female, equal and even a competitor, intimidates these insecure men. But the young girls, sexily attired and posed, look vulnerable, are nothing to fear, and are therefore inviting to such men. Presented as sex objects, these youngsters become sex targets.

    I can only picture oe of those writers getting off on these very words.

    advertise, advertise, advertise.

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