WERE JW'S REALLY INVOLVED @GROUND ZERO? (page 3)

RunningMan

Murray: You said "I don't think the governing body would misuse
Jehovah's property in that way without specific permission."

Permission from whom? Are you expecting a lightening bolt from
heaven or something? You can't for one second believe that God himself
is in direct contact with the GB, can you? Do they get permission from
God to buy an ornate theatre, or a resort for themselves?

Or maybe you were thinking of permission from the members of the
organization. When were you last asked for your opinion, let alone
permission?

Perhaps you were expecting permission to be granted by the worldwide
secret cabal of annointed ones, Christ's brothers.

Come on, they hold the money. They and only they control it. There is
no permission.

drahcir yarrum

I was simply pointing out the absurdity of thinking that the WTS would give any aid whatsoever to non-JW's affected by the 9/11 terrorist attacks on NY.

They would not authorize such an expenditure without beating it to death in some type of committee meeting.

I remember once while working nights on the printing presses at the Brooklyn Bethel I asked for a light to be installed on the bundling end of the press. Max Larson came to visit me personally and berated me for wanting to spend Jehovah's money on something that was going to make my life easier. As he walked away toward the elevator, I remember shooting him the bird. Trust me when I tell you that those fucks in Brooklyn wouldn't give anything to a worldly cause. The whole notion that they would is bullshit.

nytelecom1

silly, weak, people--

you see only what you want, blinded by hatred

can you really stand before god as you claim nytel? what would you say to him to explain why you didnt get your 10 hours in field service this month? maybe youd say "WHO THE FUQ CARES!!"

you are so obsessed you missed the point of my original post,
when I stated that "as long as they ...could stand before god" and justify themselves....

that is why we are counseled against token service....in the end thats what we will do....

dubla

nytel-

first let me say ROFL........now that ive caught my breath once again, i can respond.

you see only what you want, blinded by hatred

i already responded to the hatred inference, therefore you already know its impossible for me to be blinded by something that does not exist inside of me.

you are so obsessed you missed the point of my original post,
when I stated that "as long as they ...could stand before god" and justify themselves....

i love your use of the word "obsessed", ive noticed you often use it, thinking that it somehow discredits the validity of those that dismantle your posts. its a transparent and very unsuccessful tactic, and its common among jws.

as far as missing the point of your original post, i dont think any of us missed it. my question to you involving you standing before god was quite honestly just a way for me to make reference to your repeated use of foul language; to point out once again that you are hypocritical in your actions compared to your supposed stand as a witness. thus, the words of a known hypocrite like yourself are rendered mute when attempting to defend the name of the society that you already debase by your actions on this board. i was also pointing out that im sure your god appreciates how closely you follow his sons footsteps, and bring such glory to his great name in the process.

that is why we are counseled against token service

youve still yet to respond to the numerous posts that make an analogy between this "token service" you are counseled against, and the "token service" the society has offered to the recent disaster. i actually didnt expect you to be able to respond to that comparison, so no suprises.

aa

nytelecom1

actually i did answer the question...your just
to blind to see..

let me see...

why even bother parading yourself as a jw?

i love your use of the word "obsessed", ive noticed you often use it, thinking that it somehow discredits the validity of those that dismantle your posts. its a transparent and very unsuccessful tactic, and its common among jws.

actually, the use of this word by myself has mostly been limited to you and your obsession with me.....please review past threads
for proof.......and like it or not...admit it or not...it is an obsession..not a "tactic"..when related to you..you have yet to dimantle my posts....but if you tell yourself that enought times, I am positive you will believe it.

dubla

nytel-

actually, the use of this word by myself has mostly been limited to you and your obsession with me

i must admit that it is humorous to debate with such an easy target as yourself, and i do enjoy it, but it is far from an obsession (you keep flattering yourself, dont you?). as ive told you before when youve made this ridiculous notion, i debate with many others on this forum, but again i must admit, most of them leave themselves just as open to attack as you do, and again, its usually for the humor value. in fact (i hate to burst your bubble here), yk is actually my favorite hypocrite to discredit. if you want to see a long discussion, click here >>> http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.asp?id=11029&site=3#173729

ive spent more time on that thread alone than all of your insignificant blubberings put together. but if you must continue to fill your head with these obsession fantasies, far be it from me to stop you. perhaps though, there are other males on this forum that would be more open to helping you explore these feelings, as i am heterosexual (sorry to dissapoint).

admit it or not...it is an obsession..not a "tactic"..when related to you.

even if you are only using this "obsession" idea with me, it would still be considered a tactic, and once again, this is common among jws, so dont feel bad. the specific tactic you would be using with this notion is drawing attention to antoher area/changing the subject/attacking rather than responding. im sure youre intelligent enough (im giving you the benefit of the doubt this time, because i remember that your intelligence level is a bit of a soft spot) to figure out what i mean by this, but if you need further explanation, please feel free to ask.

you have yet to dimantle my posts....

lol, ive dismantled so many i cant count them. you are the master of dodging though, ill give you that. for instance, kudos once again for dodging this statement:

"....reference to your repeated use of foul language; to point out once again that you are hypocritical in your actions compared to your supposed stand as a witness. thus, the words of a known hypocrite like yourself are rendered mute when attempting to defend the name of the society that you already debase by your actions on this board. i was also pointing out that im sure your god appreciates how closely you follow his sons footsteps, and bring such glory to his great name in the process."

you see, in this specific case, i dismantled your bluster by showing that a hypocrite of the society cannot possibly have a valid claim in defending that same society. its quite simple really, but again, if you need further explanation, ill be happy to oblige.

aa

dubla

nytel-

one more thing i forgot to add in the "obsession" category. an example of an "obsession" might be someone that thinks they have to stand up on defense every time someone else makes any comment on the lack of help the society has provided to the attack victims.

aa

nytelecom1

ive spent more time on that thread alone than all of your insignificant blubberings put together.

this says so much ....in so few words.......

one more thing i forgot to add in the "obsession" category. an example of an "obsession" might be someone that thinks they have to stand up on defense every

time someone else makes any comment on the lack of help the society has provided to the attack victims.

and I live where?...I thought so......you could never understand..

dubla

again, kudos on another dodge. did you play dodgeball in school? i bet you were the team captain.

aa

dubla

and I live where?...I thought so......you could never understand..

if you were truly as concerned with the tradgedy as you claim to be, and truly as staunch a witness as you claim, you would be just as disgusted as the rest of us with the societys lackluster token efforts.

WERE JW'S REALLY INVOLVED @GROUND ZERO?

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