I've also noticed how he speaks against Jerry Bergman. Most of you know about Bergman's compilations or annotated commentary on various publications put out over the years by the Watcthower Society and various Bible Student groups but may not know that Bergman a work with a German author which in German is called Theocratic Warfare. I believe this may account for much of Fred's anti-Bergman sentiment since in it Bergman presents surveys taken of former elders, CO's and DO's who admit to using TW. You see, Bergman is an "expert witness" often called to testify about JW doings and he presents the documented proof he has about TW to jurors. Maybe Bergman did so once and it caused Fred some personal problems such as loss of visitation priveleges.
New U.N. Slide presentation
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Actually, Fred Hall is a close friend or Firpo Carr, or perhaps is Firpo himself!
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If the WTS only affilitated with the U.N. to use their library, then I only went to the YMCA to use their basketball court.
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Is this the same guy Randy?:
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$5 million lawsuit accuses RB Police of racial profiling
by Jason DietrichFirpo Carr is suing the Redondo Beach Police Department for $5 million for allegedly violating his civil rights. Photo by Jason Dietrich
A Lawndale man took a stand Friday in front of Redondo Beach City Hall.Firpo Carr told reporters that he was the victim of racial profiling by the Redondo Beach Police Department this summer when he was stopped in his car near the Galleria at South Bay. Carr then served police officials with a $5 million civil rights lawsuit.
Carr said the reason he was singled out by police was because he was black.
"The only way to approach this is to shove myself down their throats. We don’t want it to become known that police officers can get away with doing whatever they want in the South Bay."
In the lawsuit filed Dec. 1 in a Los Angles County District Court, Carr, a civilian employee of the Los Angeles Police Department, asks for $2 million in general damages and $3 million in punitive damages.
Redondo Beach City Attorney Jerry Goddard said that it would take the city’s lawyers more than a week to work through the suit and fully understand the claims being made. This is the first lawsuit against the city that specifically alleged racial profiling, said Goddard, adding that the concept behind the phrase was not a new one.
"It’s the same attempt to demonstrate discriminatory behavior by a different name," Goddard said.
In Carr’s corner Friday were Muslim minister Najee Ali and singer Randy Jackson, brother of pop superstar Michael Jackson.
"This is a national problem. It has happened to a lot of people and the way our system is set up, you have to hit them in the pocketbook," Ali said.
"I think it’s happened to everyone, If you’ve lived as an African-American it’s happened to you. It’s up to us to take appropriate action. It’s happened to so many people that they think justice won’t be served, but when they see people getting together like this, saying this won’t happen anymore, then they’ll stand up," Jackson said.
Carr’s lawsuit tells the following story:
He was trying to leave the parking lot of the CompUSA store near the Galleria in Redondo Beach about 4:30 p.m. Friday, June 30. His car was stopped by Redondo Beach police officer Walter Sawall, who told Carr he was investigating a report that a forgery was made at the store. Sawall asked Carr, who holds a Ph.D. in computer science and trains Los Angeles Police Department officers in computer science, "’So watcha doin’ way out here?’ as if Dr. Carr, a black man, did not belong in Redondo Beach." When Carr asked for a description of the person who had allegedly committed the crime, Sawall would not answer him.
When Carr suggested that he fill out a report form used for racial profiling incidents, Sawall stepped back, put his hand on his gun and said, "You don’t scare me," said Carr, at the news conference Friday.
"I kept my hands where he could see them because I was scared. I didn’t want to give him any excuse to shoot me," Carr said. A second police unit arrived and Carr was told he could leave. Carr said he made a formal complaint to the Redondo Beach Police Department, which found no irregularities in the incident.ER
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Lil' bit o' hisTORY on Mr. Carr:
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< http://www.stirinc.org/jwb.htmA History of Jehovah's Witnesses:
From a Black American Perspective
by Firpo W. Carr, Ph.D."What do Jehovah's Witnesses and Black Muslims have in common?
Does being a member of Jehovah's Witnesses present the best
lifestyle for African Americans? Firpo W. Carr, Ph.D., [and]
author of A History of Jehovah's Witnesses: From a Black
American Perspective, discusses these questions and more."
--The San Diego Monitor News
Ophelia P. Carr exposed all her children, including her seventh child Firpo, to the teachings of Jehovah's Witnesses. As a Baptist preacher, her husband, Oscar J. Carr, Firpo's father, didn't care for the teachings of the Witnesses, especially since he viewed as "the White man's religion." Firpo wanted to find out for himself, so, as an adult, he took a scholarly approach to the controversy.
He dared to tackle the issue of race in connection with the Witness organization. He entertains and explores questions sensitive to Jehovah's Witnesses but fascinating to the public in this comprehensive work, the first and only book of its kind in the history of Jehovah's Witnesses.
The Watch Tower Society, the legal arm of Jehovah's Witnesses, was first incorporated in the United States of America, a country where slavery, discrimination, segregation and racism have permeated its culture.
The Society, Witnesses claim, have an unblemished record in its stand on matters of race--as well as its treatment of Blacks. Yet, questions persist. What about the absence of a Black man on the Governing Body, the highest legislative body of the Witnesses? How have Jehovah's Witnesses coped with segregation when it was the "law," written and unwritten, often enforced by mobs?
And what about Malcolm X the Black Muslims? Carr asserts that Malcolm was practically a Witness himself. Could this be true? While in prison, Malcolm X "contacted the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society seeking Bible-study assistance from the Jehovah's Witnesses," wrote one author.
"For an extended time," he continues, "their representatives visited him regularly. . . . It is interesting to note that Malcolm turned to the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society for theological guidance . . . It would seem that he turned to the Jehovah's Witnesses because he was drawing on his own religious background. As noted earlier [in the book], Malcolm's mother had found certain aspects of the Jehovah's Witnesses' doctrine of great interest and had exposed her children [like Carr's mother] to their meetings."--On the Side of My People: A Religious Life of Malcolm X.
On the other hand, Elijah Muhammad discussed the Witnesses on a few different occasions. He had both praise and criticism for them. In criticising them he said: "We are the true witness of God. You have a gang of devils around here calling themselves Jehovah['s] Witnesses. Talking about they are the witness of Jehovah[.] [W]hen did a devil become a witness of Jehovah? And how can you be a witness of God and you don't know God We are the true witness of God." (Birth of a Savior) What unexpected compliments did you pay White Witness leaders? Carr's work answers this question, and many others.
A product of extensive research, this book provides views and thought provoking answers on the painful issue of race, religion, and nationalism. It includes life stories and personal glimpses of famous Black Witnesses and their triumphs over racial barriers.
Internationally known artist/illustrator Drew Struzan (of Star Wars and Indiana Jones fame) designed the very attractive front and back covers. (Paper, numerous rarely seen photographs, 470 pages, 5 1/2" by 8 1/2". Price: formerly $24.95, now $19.95 plus tax, shipping and handling.)-
Chapter Title:
Chapter 1: Jehovah's Witnesses and Black Muslims
Chapter 2: "Why Isn't There a Black Man on the Governing Body?"
Chapter 3: Cracks in the Foundation?
Chapter 4: Blacks and the Watch Tower Society--The Early Years
Chapter 5: Notable Black Events and the Watch Tower Society--Dates in Time
Chapter 6: Jehovah's Witnesses and Racial Integration
Chapter 7: Black Witness Officials--Past and Present
Chapter 8: Famous Black Witnesses--Past and Present
Chapter 9: Black History--As Told by the Watch Tower Society
Chapter 10: Black Liberation Theology--A Personal Account--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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yes, thanks df. Now what happened to firpocarr.com?
Randy