If you are a Jehovah's Witness,

by rmcgill_leader 14 Replies latest jw friends

  • rmcgill_leader
    rmcgill_leader

    If you are a Jehovah's Witness please understand that I am not against you as an individual. I am not an apostate from the Watchtower organization and, of course, I was never baptized as a Jehovah's Witness. However, when I was 17, I studied with the Jehovah's Witnesses for a couple of months, but quit. Unfortunately, they used the Watchtower Magazine equally, and sometime more than the Bible and they couldn't answer all my questions. All I wanted to study was the Bible since that is God's word.
    As a Jehovah's Witness you have been taught from the Bible and the Watchtower organization. You’ve attended numerous meetings, and are convinced that what you believe is the truth. You also believe the Trinity http://www.carm.org/doctrine/trinity.htm is a demonic doctrine and that Christendom is an apostate group preaching a false gospel. Additionally, you are taught the Watchtower organization is the true channel of God’s revelation to His church on earth. You are taught that you are in "The Truth."
    But believing it does not make it so. I am sure you agree with this and respond by saying that your beliefs are in agreement with the Bible. After all, you study it deeply and often and have validated your beliefs with the word of God. I don’t deny that you study. But when you study, you study under the Watchtower's guidance and allow it to shape your understanding and thinking of the Bible and its doctrines.
    Please consider these quotes from the Watchtower Magazine that verify what I am saying:

    • "All who want to understand the Bible should appreciate that the "greatly diversified wisdom of God" can become known only through Jehovah's channel of communication, the faithful and discreet slave." (The Watchtower; 10/1/1994; p. 8.)

    • "Thus the Bible is an organizational book and belongs to the Christian congregation as an organization, not to individuals, regardless of how sincerely they may believe that they can interpret the Bible." The Watchtower, Oct. 1, 1967. p. 587.

    In short, you are led by what the Watchtower says the Bible says. But if the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society is from God, then...

    Have you checked the documentation from the Watchtower Magazine? How do you know that the Watchtower is correct? Because it says it is?
    Please don’t be offended by this. But when a group claims to be the prophet of God, yet mistranslates the Bible, takes verses out of context, makes false prophecies, and misquotes authorities all to make its position valid, its credibility is lost. It cannot be from God.
    But you will never know that unless you "examine ALL things." Unfortunately, as a Jehovah's Witness, you are only encouraged to study what the Watchtower and Awake magazines tell you to study. That means you can't really check up on its false prophecies on your own. Instead, you must trust what it tells you about its own false prophecies. In addition, you are instructed to not take any literature from "apostate Christendom." This way, you will have far less opportunity to be challenged, something the Watchtower organization doesn't want to happen. The Watchtower Magazine teaches by asking the questions and giving the answers. Sometimes it even uses a Bible reference (often times out of context) to back up what it says. It all looks good and sounds good from your perspective. But it is a false method of study. The Watchtower organization tells you what to think and what to do. If you say that is not true and that the Watchtower Organization is God's organization on earth, then you are simply repeating what the Watchtower tells you.
    The Bible alone is sufficient. But the Watchtower denies this:

    "From time to time, there have arisen from among the ranks of Jehovah's people those, who, like the original Satan, have adopted an independent, faultfinding attitude...They say that it is sufficient to read the Bible exclusively, either alone or in small groups at home. But, strangely, through such 'Bible reading,' they have reverted right back to the apostate doctrines that commentaries by Christendom's clergy were teaching 100 years ago..." The Watchtower, August 15, 1981. (Emphasis added)

    What are the apostate doctrines: Trinity? Hell? Jesus is God? Funny thing is that, according to the Watchtower, if you study the Bible by itself, you will come to believe these things! Could it be that apart from the selected questions, answers, scripture quotes, and direction of the Watchtower teaching, that the Bible actually does teach these "apostate doctrines"? If you don't check for yourself, and only believe the Watchtower, you'll never know.
    Do you want to trust your eternal soul to the teachings of several men headquartered in Brooklyn, New York who claim to be the directors of God's organization on earth? Do you? Eternity is a long time to be wrong.

  • Lady Liberty
    Lady Liberty

    WELCOME to the forum!! We are happy to have you here!!

    Sincerely,

    Lady Liberty

  • blondie
    blondie

    You might notice that most here are ex-jws and not all have continued to be Christians. A mixed bag.

    Welcome

    Blondie

  • nomoreguilt
    nomoreguilt

    Outstandingly TRUE! Welcome to our quaint mix.

    Friends, if ever you had a tool to send to anyone still in the borg, this is it. I have printed out 10 copies for my own personal mailing list. Annonymously, of course.

  • Guest01210
    Guest01210

    For someone who studied for a few months when he was 17 years old, just think how much smarter you'd be now if you kept studying ;)

  • Burger Time
    Burger Time

    I personally do not like these posts. Not everyone believes in an Eternal Soul, it justs more emotional blackmail. When will non dubs understand that hearing blackmail from another organization(s) is almost more of a turnoff then hearing it from your own org? I would also like to point out to you it helps to have more then one source for "proving" that the Society did these things (not saying they didn't but we know how dubs think).

  • neverendingjourney
    neverendingjourney

    If you're looking to pick a fight with Jehovah's Witnesses, you've come to the wrong place. The vast majority of us are former JWs or never were JWs to begin with. I have no desire to replace one oppressive set of beliefs for another. We are intelligent people who are quite capable of deciding which spiritual road to take ourselves. I don't really care about reading your version of how I can protect my soul from eternal damnation more than I care to sit through another meeting at the kingdom hall.

  • drew sagan
    drew sagan

    Welcome to the board.

    As you may have noticed by now, this isn't a place full of active JWs. That said you're more than welcome to come around and discuss things.

    -Drew

  • eclipse
    eclipse

    Great post!

    Very well researched and thought out.

    Welcome to JWD.

    I think it's great if people think this is an official pro-JW board

    maybe more JW's will come here unknowingly and learn something that will open their eyes.

    I think you are right, when you read the Bible alone, it's easy to find the concepts of jesus being god.

    While I do not believe that the bible is inspired of god personally, many do.

    Hope you post more often.

  • worldtraveller
    worldtraveller

    Great read. Well done, and welcome. Too early to say "Merry Christmas" to you? I love it when you comment, then back it up. Very well written.

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