Mr. Flippers Son Gets Response Back from Witness Mother- Then Responds

by flipper 25 Replies latest jw friends

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  Gringa

  Fabulous! I love how he said that it wasn't just the witnesses. I think that takes a little of the personal attack (in her mind) out of it - not much, but a little. I also love the way he turned the evidence of the truth of the Bible around on her. Did he do that letter all by himself? I am amazed at his critical thinking and his huevos!!! You have a son that can think for himself and you should be very proud!

  I do have to say, having a brain washed fanatical mother myself, I was surprised at her letter. From my eyes, I thought she really was kind and loving. It was gentler than I would have expected. I am sure she is very saddened and in shocked. I know my mom was beside herself when a few of us kids came out.... the letters may get stronger and stronger, at least my mom's calls and letters became "desperate" and the guilt trip intensified which only made me walk further away from her. They just don't understand that their tactics on the "wavering" are counter-productive.

  I also I think the part that is upsetting you is the unhappy 19 year marriage part!!! ROFL!!!! (just joking! - sorta)

  Gringa
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  flipper

  OTWO- Thanks bud. Yeah he got pretty assertive, in a nice respectful way though. That's how his dad is too. He is a " justice " freak like me !

  RONIN 1- I agree. She is so mind controlled it would take an act of " God " to change her views.

  Oompa- Thanks buddy ! It is cool that by going to college it has helped him develop critical thinking ability !

  CHICKPEA- I agree. I probably would have said that too, " Get used to disappointment ". But hey, I'm an ex-husband so I would say that ! It's his mother so he showed respect. That's a good thing. You can see how deluded her thinking is by reading her responses.

  MOUTHY- Yes. I think his mom was emotionally upset too. But you never know, maybe he planted a " seed " as you said.

  BUMBLE BEE- He certainly worded his words carefully and respectfully. Thanks. Glad you are free too ! Does your mother still talk with you ? Just curious. Peace.

  GRINGA- Yes. He did that letter all by himself ! His thoughts entirely. He has learned critical thinking ability from college. His mom is so brainwashed as your mother was so I doubt she will change. The part about the unhappy 19 year marriage ? Hey, what can I say ? I know many of our years were happy, not until the latter part , last few years did it get otherwise. But if she wants to use that s an emotional power stick, she can. Goes off my back like water off a ducks back. I never bad mouth her to my adult children. I don't play games. I'm not wired that way. Peace out, Mr. Flipper
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  mouthy

  would take an act of " God " to change her views

  Nothing is impossible for GOD
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  Gretchen956

  Be assured the molesters are not being sent to another area to worship freely .

  Wouldn't she be surprised to know the truth about this. I remember reading in Barbara's CDs that these so-called brothers shuffled around between congregations. No, they probably weren't overtly or covertly "sent," but they were allowed to go without repurcussion and to molest others.

  Her letter was pretty mild for a JW, and his answer was very thoughtful and thought invoking. I hope that she really does think about his response. You know sometimes this type of thing gets filed away in the back of your mind, you think that it doesn't make a difference and that you aren't influenced by it, but then some situation may come up within her congregation or with a friend, she could hear of something similar. Then she'll remember this and it will resonate at last.

  It seems to me that these big ticket items, for the deeply brain-washed, don't do it in and of themselves. But then later some little thing will come up where perhaps they see the elders circling their wagons to protect a brother or some little thing, and suddenly the scales fall off.

  One can only hope.

  You have an awesome son, Mr. Flipper.

  Sherry
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  TheSilence

  You have an amazing son, Mr. Flipper. I'm glad you're proud of him.

  Merry Christmas!!!

  Jackie
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  What-A-Coincidence

  I vote Mr. Flipper Mr. Dad of the Month
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  darkuncle29

  Nice going Mr. Flipper, I'll say in my best Yoda voice, "Train him well you did, mmm."
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  Lady Liberty

  Dear Flipper,

  Sounds like your sons mother might benefit from the whole 607 issue if she likes archeology and history so much. I think your son did a wonderful job in responding to her! You must be proud! Thank you for sharing!!

  Sincerely,

  Lady Liberty
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  Bumble Bee

  Does your mother still talk with you ? Just curious.

  She does now. When I first told her my feelings on things, it wasn't a good scene. After a few months of the silent treatment (and a few other things), she came to the house, apologized, and we set up some boundaries. We each know where we stand on things, and neither of us discusses religion anymore. For now, it works.

  BB
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  aniron

  Its good that your son was able to reply in such a calm measured way.

  I hope it makes his mother think more about the WT.

  The only thing I would pick on is his telling of the name Jehovah and his college instructor, a Hebrew scholar, saying it was Martin Luther in the 1600's who came up with the name. The name Jehovah was formulated in the 12th century my a Catholic monk, well before Martin Luther came along.