Solomon the greatest Apostate of all time,worshiped false god's with his wives and basically sinned against the Holy Spirit, the un-forgivable sin...so why did his books make it into the bible?...why was he called "the wisest man alive' when he stuffed up so badly? Why do Witnesses say he still gets a ressurection even though there is no evidence to support this?
Why Solomon gets into bible/resurrection??? =Biggest Apostate ever???
by Witness 007 25 Replies latest watchtower bible
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Brother Apostate
During his faithful years, Solomon was given wisdom from above, and wrote Song of Songs, then Proverbs, then Ecclesiastes.
All three books were written while Solomon was faithful.
So there is every good reason for their inclusion in the Bible canon.
Some time passed afterwriting Ecclesiastes, then Solomon worshiped false god's with his wives and concubines.
as for "sinning against the Holy Spirit, the un-forgivable sin", no where is there any indication of that being so.
As Christ taught, "stop judging, lest you be judged".
It is up to God, not men, to decide who will be given life and who will not.
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JCanon
During his faithful years, Solomon was given wisdom from above, and wrote Song of Songs, then Proverbs, then Ecclesiastes.
Solomon did not write Ecclesiastes and especially not Song of Solomon which has references to a pagan goddess Artemis image that didn't show up until the 6th Century BCE. Just for the record.
Three Bible books now in the canon that shouldn't be and that are not quoted from by the NT Bible Writers are: SOS, Ecclesiates and the Book of Esther. None of these books are inspired.
JCanon
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sweetstuff
None of these books are inspired.
Hey, JC, while you are at it, study the symbolism in Revelation and then study the symbolism of Kabbalah. The entire bible ain't inspired.
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skyking
Brother Apostate your avatar cracks me up
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JCanon
Hey, JC, while you are at it, study the symbolism in Revelation and then study the symbolism of Kabbalah. The entire bible ain't inspired.
Fascinating, I'm sure. Any particular comparison you have in mind?
I've been amazed at concepts found at Qumran regarding eschatological issues that are profoundly parallel to some of the esoteric stuff in the Bible. So I wouldn't be surprised! But you figure the Kabbalah being Jewish, some of those esoteric things may have always been there; they are hidden between the lines in the Bible but are more out front in the pagan occultic distortions.
It doesn't mean the Bible isn't inspired though. Just because a pagan cultic book mentions Adam and Eve doesn't mean they are myths.
JCanon
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monophonic
because solomon foreshadows not apostacy, but finally figuring out the BS. everyone's all up on the bible being inspired...maybe it is....maybe solomon saw the same BS that we're all seeing today....and his turning his back on god was the right thing to do b/c we're all human and it's ok to be pissed off at god for what he's putting us here on earth.....unless of course we're some alien experiment.
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blondie
Here is the WTS explanation of why Solomon is to be resurrected.
*** w65 8/15 p. 511 Questions From Readers ***
Considering what is said at 1 Chronicles 28:9, how can it be said that Solomon will be resurrected?—B.M., U.S.A.
In order to determine what the Bible indicates about the possibility of a resurrection for Solomon, it is helpful to compare what is said about him with what the Scriptures say happened at death to certain other men who lived before Christ.
Abraham, Moses and David pleased Jehovah. Consequently, they were listed as men of faith who believed in and will receive a resurrection. (Heb. 11:17-19, 23-28, 32-35, 39, 40) This means that at death they went to Sheol or Ha´des, the common earthly grave of mankind, since it is from there that the dead are resurrected. (Rev. 20:13) We have no reason to doubt Jehovah’s determination in their regard. Interestingly, the Bible used similar expressions in explaining what happened to all these men when they died. Abraham, upon his death, went "to [his] forefathers in peace." (Gen. 15:15) At death Moses ‘lay down with his forefathers.’ (Deut. 31:16) And David is spoken of as being "with his forefathers and . . . buried in the city of David."—1 Ki. 2:10; Acts 13:36.
So all three men, Abraham, Moses and David, pleased God, went to Sheol, and are mentioned as being buried with or gathered to their forefathers. The use of the similar expression ‘buried with his forefathers’ could not mean that they all shared the same grave, since these men were not buried at the same place. In fact, Jehovah buried Moses, and "nobody has come to know his grave down to this day."—Deut. 34:5, 6.
Jehovah also included in the inspired record the statement that at death Solomon "lay down [slept, AV,AS,RS] with his forefathers." (1 Ki. 11:43; 2 Chron. 9:31) So, using the Bible’s parallelism, we can reasonably conclude that Solomon, along with his forefathers Abraham, Moses and David, is in Sheol or Ha´des, from which he will be resurrected. Although some may feel that, in view of Solomon’s great wisdom, he was fully accountable when he turned to false worship, all the factors are known by Jehovah, a God of perfect justice and mercy, and this seems to be his decision on the matter.
Before David died he had admonished Solomon: "If you search for [Jehovah], he will let himself be found by you; but if you leave him, he will cast you off forever." (1 Chron. 28:9) In view of what has already been established, what can we conclude that David here meant? It appears that David had reference to this present life and did not have in mind the matter of whether Solomon would have a resurrection or not if he fell away from true worship. If Solomon, as king of Israel, left Jehovah, God would reject him or cast him off. That is what happened. (1 Ki. 11:9-13) Nonetheless, the Scriptures indicate that Solomon apparently will receive a resurrection.—John 5:28, 29; Matt. 6:29; 12:42; Acts 7:47.
Of course, the Bible does not make a definite statement on the resurrection possibilities of each and every person it names. But if we individually prove our own integrity to God now, it will be our privilege to be on hand when the resurrection occurs or to be among those raised from the dead. Then we will know definitely which individuals have been favored by God with a resurrection.
***w057/15p.31QuestionsFromReaders***
SinceKingSolomonofancientIsraelinhisoldageturnedunfaithfultoGod,canweconcludethathewillnotberesurrected?—
1 Kings11:3-9.While the Bible lists by name some men and women of faith who will no doubt be resurrected, it does not specifically comment on the resurrection prospects of every single individual it names. (Hebrews 11:1-40) In the case of Solomon, however, we can get an idea of God’s judgment by comparing what happened to him at death with what happened to certain faithful ones when they died.
The Scriptures speak of only two possibilities for the dead—the temporary state of nonexistence and the state of eternal death. Those who are judged unworthy of a resurrection are pitched into "Gehenna," or "the lake of fire." (Matthew 5:22; Mark 9:47, 48; Revelation 20:14) Among these would be the first human pair, Adam and Eve, the betrayer Judas Iscariot, and certain ones who died when God executed judgment upon them, such as the people in Noah’s day and the inhabitants of Sodom and Gomorrah. At death, those who will be favored with a resurrection go to the common grave of mankind—Sheol, or Hades. Speaking of their future, the Bible states: "The sea gave up those dead in it, and death and Hades gave up those dead in them, and they were judged individually according to their deeds."—Revelation 20:13.
The faithful ones referred to in Hebrews chapter 11, then, are in Sheol, or Hades, awaiting the resurrection. Among these are God’s loyal servants Abraham, Moses, and David. Now consider how the Bible speaks of them with regard to their dying. "As for you," Jehovah told Abraham, "you will go to your forefathers in peace; you will be buried at a good old age." (Genesis 15:15) Jehovah said to Moses: "Look! You are lying down with your forefathers." (Deuteronomy 31:16) Concerning Solomon’s father, David, the Bible says: "David lay down with his forefathers and was buried in the City of David." (1 Kings 2:10) Thus, the expression ‘lying down with one’s forefathers’ is another way of saying that the person went to Sheol.
What happened to Solomon when he died? The Bible answers: "The days that Solomon had reigned in Jerusalem over all Israel were forty years. Then Solomon lay down with his forefathers, and was buried in the City of David his father." (1 Kings 11:42, 43) Hence, it seems reasonable to conclude that Solomon is in Sheol, or Hades, from which he will be resurrected.
This conclusion implies that the possibility of being resurrected is open to others concerning whom the Scriptures specifically say, ‘they lay down with their forefathers.’ In fact, many of the kings who succeeded Solomon, though unfaithful, are spoken of in this way. This is not inconceivable, since "there is going to be a resurrection of both the righteous and the unrighteous." (Acts 24:15) Of course, only after "all those in the memorial tombs" are raised will we know for a certainty who has been favored with a resurrection. (John 5:28, 29) So rather than be dogmatic about the resurrection of any particular individual of old, we wait, trusting in Jehovah’s perfect decision.
[Footnote]
See pages 30-1 of the June 1, 1988, issue of TheWatchtower.
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Brother Apostate
Solomon did not write Ecclesiastes and especially not Song of Solomon
For the record, the above statement is incorrect and revisionist. While the authorship has been questioned, the book itself (Ecclesiastes) identifies Solomon as author. The authorship of Song of Songs has also been debated, but is generally agreed to have been written by Solomon, some Bibles even calling it Song of Solomon.
BA- Setting the record straight.
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Superfine Apostate
this post was written by solomon