Watchtower hysteria

by billy 21 Replies latest jw friends

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  billy

  I have been away from the organization for about 3yrs now.
  What did it for me was that verse in Psalms/proverbs, where it says: Do not put your trust in Nobles or the son of earthling man.
  The watchtower officials are like Nobles. They expect trust from you, with their multitude of rules for Christian living. Something they say is down to your conscience; yet punish you for exercising your conscience.They infact want you to exercise their conscience.
  Yes, I have doubts about these people!

  In my previous post, I was testing the waters to see if, after leaving the Watchtower you had gained some tolerance for others, because this is sadly lacking within the Organization.
  Much of the response was hysterical and childish. Many of you decided to gang up on this intrusive fellow and give him a peace of your mind. There also seems to be a sort of "click", a group of people here that are held up as important, and when they choose to speak others within the "Click" take notice and proceeded to speak up themselves. At Kingdom hall meetings, it was exactly the same!
  Again, this caused so much harm in my congregation; the quieter ones were left out of the equation.
  It seems that this board is no different, it is: think as we think or up yours! survival of the fittest! the sort of thing I hated about my congregation.

  I am not the sort of person that is easily shaken so your attacks do me no harm.

  Goodbye
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  DazedAndConfused

  billy,

  I think what happens is when your whole life and the way you think gets turned upside down because the very people that you trusted.........you learn, have betrayed you, you tend to have a certain amount of time that you become bitter and lash out. I don't think this is a conscious thing, I think it is a self preservation thing. I have essentially been out of the Borg for 11 years, and I am just now cutting the placental ties that they have had on me. I knew that I didn't believe in them anymore, I just couldn't break the ties. In that time, yes I was a very bitter person and unfortunately, people in my life that had nothing at all to do with this were effected. I don't know exactly what happened to you before, but I think that if you show that you are here for the good of not only yourself but for others acceptance will come. Also, with what I have just stated maybe you can understand our side of it too. Please stay and become part of the group
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  zev

  stand your ground.

  believe in what you must.

  being true to yourself, is more important that being true to lying, deceptive, old codgers.

  godspeed to you.

  -Zev
  -The "Truth" is out there! TRUST NO ONE!
  I WANT TO BELIEVE!
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  Kent

  There also seems to be a sort of "click", a group of people here that are held up as important, and when they choose to speak others within the "Click" take notice and proceeded to speak up themselves. At Kingdom hall meetings, it was exactly the same!

  
  There also seems to be a "click", a group of people here, that was badly braindamaged at birth, and as a sad result is spotting ghosts in bright sunshine.
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  joelbear

  Billy,

  I didn't see your first posts or the attacks you speak of, but this board is basically like any other group of people and so is the Kingdom Hall. There is no magic pill that people take to become different.

  I run into basically the same dynamics wherever I go. I'm learning not to expect things to change simply because I stamp my feet and insist that they do.

  Welcome to the world (which includes Jehovah's Witnesses). You can accept it and manuveur through as best you can and enjoy the journey or you can sit and pout about it or rant and rave about it. Neither one will change it one iota.

  Joel
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  Naeblis

  I refuse to read your posts until you assure me that your opinions mirror my own. Now begone.
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  Sirona

  Personally, I much prefer to have freedom of speech rather than a pseudo-peace as is offered when people cant really speak up.

  It is a known fact that human beings form groups...we cant help ourselves. We also cant help arguing and getting annoyed with other people. This is life.

  I too was surprised in leaving the JWs and noticing how people are with each other in the "world". You'd be amazed to know, probably, that despite arguing and fighting, many of the people here form meaningful relationships based on mutual respect.

  Sirona
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  Abaddon

  billy;

  You make a good point and a big mistake at the same time.

  Yes, people form groups. People are more tolerant of those in the same group as them and will tend to support people in the same group as them.

  So, what you are saying is that we are just like everyone else.

  And this makes us bad?

  Despite the fact we are comprised of groups and individuals with differing opinions, we get on. There might be arguements, we might berate people for believeing stuff we consider stupid. But no one ever disputes the right of people to hold their own opinion.

  But what are you doing? Showing the tolerance you seek? I don't think so.

  If the rough and tumble of the real world is too much for you, I wish you the best, and hope some day you will be able to cope outside of the sheltered environment you are running back to.

  Keep on rocking in the free world...
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  Frenchy

  billy:

  Perhaps if you had worded your post a little differently you may have had 'softer' responses.

  Just looking briefly on this board, I can see All the warnings given in the Watchtower about those leaving the organisation and sinking into the mire of the world are true.
  You are all sad losers.

  -Seen it all, done it all, can't remember most of it-
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  jayhawk1

  billy,
  It is okay to use some tact. On bible verse I do hold on to says to season your words with salt. Perhaps if you came in here not attacking people, you would not feel alone in here when posting. Of course their are clicks here. That is human nature. There will always be some personalities that I like, and some I don't. (most I do like) Still the secret to happiness is tact and respect for your fellow man.

  "Hand me that whiskey, I need to consult the spirit."-J.F. Rutherford

  Here is the page of the dumbest Jehovah's Witness I have ever seen.
  http://hometown.aol.com/onjehovahside/