So how do the Anointed Fly at death? No soul..no spirit??????

by oompa 16 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

  • oompa
    oompa

    Has WT ever explained WTF does go to heaven? We have no soul...but are souls...and spirit Nephesh and Pneuma or what ever is breath....like breath of life.....so what goes to heaven? Is there no name for it? ...........................................oompa

    BTW it is so funny about that resurrection scripture that we dont weep overmuch like the nations do "who have no hope" because almost ALL other religions have a heavenly hope and a strong one. So we go to their door and tell them about paradise.....hell they already have their hope in heaven just like our 144k which WT says is a BETTER hope so why would we take it away? Well of course we would take it away because they cant be anointed since they have all been called before 1935. But what now!!! ANYBODY at ANY DOOR could be a future anointed....so while we don't have to talk them out of heaven, dubs will have to change some presentations for very first time that will have to explain THE OPTION PLAN!!! Still no hellfire at least

    ps....just heard the word WATCHTOWER used in Lord of the Rings

  • Nathan Natas
    Nathan Natas

    If my decrepitating memory serves me, the WTB&TS has even gone so far to say that SHEOL is a LITERAL place where the dead reside. The dead WHAT? Is what I want to know.

    The dead NON-EXISTENT SOULS?

    Being incapable of deep thought or analysis, questions such as what we're asking have never been contemplated by the WTB&TS before, apparently.

  • johnny cip
    johnny cip

    OOMPA great question. I have asked 100's of jw's this question. so if a person doesn't have a ASOUL/SPRITUAL BEING? THEN WHAT PART OF JUDGE RUTHERFRAUD. went to heaven when he died? they just can't answer it. I just keep going back to dust to dust what did rutherFRAUD HAVE as a human that I don't have? a SOUL? IS HIS BODY STILL BURIED IN THE GROUND? SO THEN WHAT THE HELL PART OF HIM WENT TO HEAVEN? WHAT DID YOU SAY SPRITUAL BODY? SOUNDS LIKE A DIFFERENT WORD FOR SOUL TO ME. I have gotten lots of extra miles on just this one topic. john

  • SirNose586
    SirNose586

    Wasn't it all stored on Jehober's Eternal Hard Drive? They always keep saying that the dead reside in God's memory. If that's so, what does God have? RAID 5?

  • Nathan Natas
    Nathan Natas

    "...Sheol is the place (not a condition) that asks for or demands all without distinction, as it receives the dead of mankind within it... the Bible record shows that Sheol refers to mankind’s common grave as a place where there is no consciousness. (Ec 9:4-6, 10) Those in Sheol neither praise God nor mention him. (Ps 6:4, 5; Isa 38:17-19) Yet it cannot be said that it simply represents ‘a condition of being separated from God,’ since the Scriptures render such a teaching untenable by showing that Sheol is “in front of” him, and that God is in effect “there.” (Pr 15:11; Ps 139:7, 8; Am 9:1, 2) For this reason Job, longing to be relieved of his suffering, prayed that he might go to Sheol and later be remembered by Jehovah and be called out from Sheol.—Job 14:12-15... Abel apparently was the first one to go to Sheol, and since then countless millions of human dead have joined him in the dust of the ground." -- INSIGHT, vol. 2, article SHEOL, page 922.
    "Death, therefore, is a state of nonexistence." -- "When we Die" (brochure, 1988) page 22.

  • BONEZZ
    BONEZZ
    Re: So how do the Anointed Fly at death?

    Coach class...no movie...no champagne.

    -BONEZZ

  • johnny cip
    johnny cip

    ECC 12:7 and the the dust return to the earth as it was , and the SPRIT WILL return unto JEHOVAH who gave it. jw's hate this verse

  • oompa
    oompa

    Johnny yep we do hate it...until we say that spirit is pneuma or such and its just the breath of life and that since god gives that to each human, then it goes back to him...but its not a soul or real spirit.....just dead energizer bunny batteries..........oompa

  • bobld
    bobld

    oompa you ask very good questions.You make me laugh.Ec.4:2 "And I congratulated the dead who had already died rather than the living who were still alive".Now why would someone want to congratulate a dead person and not a living human being.Isn't that wbts reasoning...totally backwards.

    bob

  • candidlynuts
    candidlynuts

    maybe they step on the backs of every person who's been rejected by their families at the watchtowers requirements.

    that oughta be enough bodies to pile up to heaven..where did the watchtower used to say heaven was? the pleiades?

    believe everything the governing body says, reject anyone who disagrees and watch the annointed go to heaven cuz they are spirit directed by god himself.....

    here's the quote ....

    The constellation of the seven stars forming the Pleiades appears to be the crowning center around which the known systems of the planets revolve.... It has been suggested, and with much weight, that one of the stars of that group is the dwelling place of Jehovah and the place of the highest heavens;....

    The constellation of the Pleiades is a small one compared with others which scientific instruments disclose to the wondering eyes of man. But the greatness in size of other stars or planets is small when compared to the Pleiades in importance, because the Pleiades is the place of the eternal throne of God.

    J. F. Rutherford, Reconciliation, 1928, p. 14.

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