What's the big deal with 2014?

by inkling 11 Replies latest jw friends

  • inkling
    inkling

    why do so many people here attach any significance to the year 2014,
    or more accurately, think that current JWs will?

    when the year 2014 rolls around, and still no end of the world, why
    should anyone, including the witnesses, care?

    sure, it happens to be a nice round number past the imaginary
    return of Jesus, but I don't see why this will be a big deal-
    after all, they have already been waiting 93 years, what is
    a few more?

    we 5-fingered animals sure are obsessed with our arbitrarydecimal-based numbering system.

    [ink]

  • sir82
    sir82

    Technically you are right, if Armageddon is already 93 years late, what's another 7 more?

    Psychologically, though, it could be devastating. Did Jesus expound upon the sign of the last days, or the last centuries?

  • Zico
    Zico

    I don't think it will be an issue. The 7th day adventists, a bigger religion than the Jehovah's Witnesses, have 1844 as the starting date of Jesus' presence. They still seem to have little problem with it 163 years later.

  • DT
    DT

    It could make for interesting news clips. If the media jumps on this, it could also lead to greater exposure of other issues like the pedophilia scandal.

  • TD
    TD
    we 5-fingered animals sure are obsessed with our arbitrary decimal-based numbering system.

    So true. That's why 25th and 50th wedding anniverseries are somehow more important than the others. Forget your 24th wedding anniversery and your wife might forgive you. Forget your 25th and you're dead.

    But this decimal obsession affects JW's just as much as anyone else. That's why some of us think 2014 may have an effect on them at least psychologically, provided they have not discarded 1914 by then.

    Psychologically, (At least) the century mark will make it that much harder for JW's to wiggle around the fact that the metaphor, "Last days" denotes a relatively brief period of time.

    (That's why Jesus was able to say, "But as these things start to occur, raise yourselves erect and lift your heads up, because your deliverance is getting near." He didn't say, the deliverance of your children's, children's, children's children is getting near.)

    JW's can be thick, but they're not that thick. Jesus certainly didn't mean "Last centuries" when he said "Last days."

  • willyloman
    willyloman

    I "get" why 2014 might seem like a big deal, to some ex dubs, 100 years after 1914 and all. But people who are still in don't view it the same way we do.

    For instance, after 1975 failed to bring an end to the system, some dubs left, others slowed down. But lots of dubs figured "we" had miscalculated and immediately begans speculating about the generation of 70 or 80 years since 1914. They added those numbers to the date and came to the conclusion - never published, as far as I know, but widely speculated about and hinted at - that the end must be scheduled to come between the years 1984 and 1994. When the Berlin wall came down in the late 1980s, there was a lot of winking and nudging among dubs, most of whom felt that this was why Jehovah "delayed" the end until after 1975. Remember all those stories about hundreds or thousands of eastern Europeans "coming into the truth" as a result of the fall of Communism in Europe?

    When it got close to '94, expectations first peaked, then waned as dubs began to wonder what would happen if 1994 ended the way 1975 did - with no end in sight!

    A CO told me in the fall of '94 that in terms of the "service year" calendar used by JWs, 1994 didn't technically end until around September of 1995. So, of course, that postponed the expectation for another year. Then in a November WT magazine in '95 (printed and distributed a few months earlier, or prior to the end of the service year), came the "new light" about the generation doctrine.

    There is way less speculation among dubs about 2014 than there ever was about 1975 (we may not ever see that again). There isn't even as much speculation about it as there was for 1984-94. In the Society's view, they've still got 5 or 6 years to deal with 2014, assuming it even becomes a topic of speculation among the rank and file. If they need to, they can always produce more "new light" which could include a whole new start date for the end times - much like they shitcanned the length of a generation back in '95 (and FUBAR'd it further in recent weeks).

    You can count on them to throw in another wild card by then, if necessary. Dubs will just eat this stuff up because it comes from the "slave." And these guys have a direct line to God, you know?

  • wha happened?
    wha happened?

    wasn't 2035 thrown around for a while as well? I knew one elder who kept talking about 2005.

  • chappy
    chappy

    2012 is the significant year to watch. The sun completes it's 23,600 year orbit around the galaxy and perfectly aligns with the galactic center. 2012 was predicted to be the end of the world as we know it by the Mayans. Nostradomas found 2012 to be a signifcant year in human history and predicted catastophy for the world. Nibiru, the wandering planet is scheduled to enter the inner solar system and create devistation on a global scale, just as it has done every 3600 years. This event was known to the Sumerians. They wrote about it in the clay tablets (the oldest known written record in existance) they left. The ancient Egyptians also left a detailed record of it's passing in their time and included a warning for future generations about it's devistating effects on the planet. These records were compiled together in the early 1800's along with numerous Druid texts into a book called the Kolbrin Bible. It's available for viewing on the net. Indian prophecy indicates the end of the world in 2012. There is great significance in the 2012 date as illuded to in the Jewish Kabbal. The book of Revelation, though not mentioning a date, gives details of it's effects...the great millstone falling from heaven into the sea, killing a third of the people; "stars"(asteroids knocked out of the asteroid belt by the intruder planet) falling from heaven and much more. It is thought by some that the great deluge in Genesis was caused by this great planetary body passing close to the earth, creating huge mile or more high tsunamis that swept over the land, causing many of the ancients to think the whole world had been covered by water.

    This is just the start.

    later,

    chappy

  • nomoreguilt
    nomoreguilt

    Numbers, dates, generations, fds, remnant, geneaoligys, Mine is bigger than yours, sounds like school yard theatrics to me.

    nomoreguilt

  • chappy
    chappy

    Yours may be bigger...but mine works

    chappy

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