Why is 537BCE important? (page 2)

Lady Liberty

Dear Whereami, I also thought you may appreciate this previous post. Sincerely, Lady Liberty Hi everyone,

I just made this chart for my brother-in-law using the Bible as well as the book entitled Assyrian & Babylonian Chronicles by A.K. Grayson printed in 1975. Grayson is a world renound expert used to decipher the Assyrian and Babylonian Chronicles for the British Museum. I checked out this book from the local library. Although they had to send away to a College University for it. A interesting note: the Society uses this very book in the Insight Vol.2 under Nebuchadnezzar to support their dates. When I got this book, it was for the purpose of checking their dates and quotes of this author. As you will see by this chart, they have misquoted him to serve their own deceitful purpose! I included scriptures that support the chronicles. Like I said, I made this for my brother-in-law, but thought someone out there might be able to use it.

Have a great night!

Lady Liberty

The Seventy Years: 609 to 539 BCE

609- Nabopolassars 17 th reignal year. Babylon was dominating all surrounding nations. See Jer. 25:11, 25:17- 26. 27:6-8, 12-13(All the nations will have to SERVE the king of Babylon seventy years.) The 70 years begin. ( Babylonian Chronicle 3- BM 21901)

607- Nabopolassars 19 th reignal year. Nebuchadnessar was not even in power yet! He was only a crowned prince at this time. (Babylonian Chronicle 4 –BM 22047)

605- Nabopolassars 21 st reignal year. Battle of Carchemish , between Egypt and Babylon. Nabopolassar dies and Nebuchadnezar accends the thrown. This is year 0 for Nebuchadnezzars reign. Daniel finds himself exiled to Babylon, as well as the Royal offspring of Jerusalem, the utensils of the house of Jehovah were carried to Babylon. See Daniel 1- 2:1. Jer. 29:1,20 (Babylonian Chronicle 5- BM 21946)

603- Nebuchadnezzars second reignal year. See. Dan. 2:1

586/587- Jerusalem burned. Nebuchadnessars ninteenth reignal year. See Jer. 52:12-16 (There were still lowly ones left remaining in the city.)

562-End of Nebuchadnezzars reign.

557-Neriglissars third reignal year. ( Chronicle 6 –BM 25124)

556- Nabonidus becomes King. (Nabonidus Chronicle 7- BM35382)

539- 70 are fullfilled. Nabonidus is King of Babylon at this time. Cyrus overtakes Babylon in one night. Handwriting on the wall. Jews released from servitude. See- Dan. 5:25-26 Jer. 25: 12 ( Nabonidus Chronicle: Chronicle 7-BM 36304)

Lady Liberty

http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/10/111407/1.ashx(Scroll down to the 2nd page for super sizescans of the book)

Dear Whereami,

I think this may be of great intrest to you as well. It shows how by changing the date to 607 from what it factually is, it has a domino effect and changes many other dates the Society uses. Then the Society lies and inserts dates while quoting experts, trying to decieve both you and I!See what I mean from this older thread:

O.K. Everyone,

Here are the scanned copies I promised I would post. Thanks to my WONDERFUL husband, he made it all possible, as he is a computer whiz! These copies show the out and out deception on the part of the organization. Once again, we find proof of them misquoting different scholars in order for the organization to appear to have credentials for proof of their date system. If I never checked their date out and never had any reason to doubt them, then I would have never have seen the deception. Hope someone will benefit from these as much as we have.

See scanned copy of Insight Book page 480, which reads :

In this his accession year he returned to Hattu, and "in the month Shebat [January-February, 624 B.C.E.] he took the vast booty of Hattu to Babylon." (AssyrianandBabylonianChronicles, by A. K. Grayson, 1975, p. 100)

Now look at the actual scanned page from this very book I checked out from the library. Page 100 Notice there is NO date!! Look closer at the Insight Book Scan. In brackets they insert the date 624 B.C.E. inside the quotation marks. Clearly anyone reading this would never question that the date 624 B.C.E. was actually the date given by this renouned scholar.

Then, lets look at scanned page 19 from this same book. Notice what date A.K. Grayson DOES give: 605 B.C.E. NOT 624 B.C.E.!!! Interesting that the Society has to alter the Battle of Carchemishs dates because they have changed the date of the destruction of Jerusalem.

Sincerely,

Lady Liberty

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Sincerely,

Lady Liberty

JosephMalik

Well JosephMalik, of the 'throw the baby out with the water' class, if most of what the JW's teach is trash then where does that leave the rest of the churches, who teach even worse trash with their trinity nonsense, completely unscriptural immortal soul bollox, and their hellfire crap. They are all teaching trash, the lot of them, but the JW's have got some big things right.

mustobey, Where are the rest of the churches? In the same group with the JW's of course. That is why the scriptures identify an evil slave existing with and pretending to be the faithful slave. What big things do the JW's have right? Some go to heaven? Wrong. Do not partake if you are not one of their 144000? Wrong. House to house preaching? Wrong. We are the governing body? Wrong. Do not take a blood transfusion? Wrong. No trinity? Yes but even here they have important facts wrong and it is not the big or most important thing they keep saying it is. Christ did not raise himself in the flesh and does not still retain his humanity? Wrong again and they are antichrist for doing so. Women are not equal in the faith to men? Wrong. The scriptures are telling us to preach Christ and they keep preaching Jehovah. They are wrong again on such a simple and fundamental thought. They do not even know the correct Jewish Passover date on which our Lord died. And no one notices? Are they all stupid? And it goes on and on like this to an incredible extent too long to list. They place themselves inside the text, teaching their founders had a part in fulfilling it? Wrong. 1914? Wrong. WT doctrine is killing people unnecessarily. True! Does this matter to you? It is a big mess and very few even notice. And you may not have noticed but other churches share the views you seem to cherish and are not making the mistakes that the WT is making. Why not give them the credit they deserve? Joseph P.S. The WT has NEVER preached this good news of the Kingdom. Why? Because they do not know what it is, who and how we get there and why. Their doctrine regarding this kingdom is? Yes some guessed it, WRONG. One of the really big ones I would say. JM

scholar

Lady Liberty

Your comments that the Society's use of Grayson's publication by altering ir inserting their dates is somehow dishonest or improper shows that you have know knowledge of academic practice or convention. The Society has done nothing wrong by inserting a different date enclosed within square brackets because this is done to indicate to the reader that a correction or explanation is made. You should consult a Style Manual to verify this and if you are living in the USA then the most popular Style Manual is the Chicago Manual of Style, for authors, editors and copyrighters. The Society as a longtime publicher has also its Syle Manual adopted for its own use which also is the case with most Government department, Institutions such as Universities.

So, as long as the adjusted date is enclosed within square brackets and within the quotation followed bythe source properly referenced then everything is OK.

scholar JW

onacruse

So, as long as the adjusted date is enclosed within square brackets and within the quotation followed by the source properly referenced then everything is OK.

Sure, why not? Every date that doesn't jive with what the WTS wants/needs it to be can therefore simply be bracketed, and then it's all "OK."

I'd like to be able to get away with that precious little trick when I balance my checkbook.

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I'd like to be able to get away with that precious little trick when I balance my checkbook.

Lol! What about taxes? Is the IRS ok with "I hereby owe [$5.34] income tax!"

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onacruse

LOL w/ inkling! Yeah, my wife said the same thing!

whereami, in a nutshell: The WTS holds strong on 537, because they take literally the 70 years of desolation of Jerusalem, which then would have had to start in 607. 607 is critical because that's where the 2520 years of Daniel's "tree vision" (seven times, etc) would begin, leading down to 1914.

Of course, there are several leaps of faith required here, and includes a "minor" revision back in the 40s when the WTS suddenly realized (was inspired by God to see???) that they had forgotten to account for the year "0" in all their previous chronologies. But a bracket here, and a footnote there, and all was "OK" once again.

What's a mere year here or there, when one is handling the sacred secrets of God?

scholar

onacruse

No leap of faith required here but good old solid exegesis and a strong belief in the authenticity of God's Word over and become the confused nonsense of apostates and higher critics who cannot decide which year Jerusalem fell, when the seventy years began or ended. When you have sorted our your mess then you can properly be in a position to criticize the chronology developed over many centuries by the celebrated WT scholars.

scholar JW

avishai

Hey scholar, Just who celebrates these scholars and how?

VoidEater

celebrated WT scholars.

I would think that would be wrong to celebrate.

[I'm so glad the society has calculated the time of Armageddon so accurately]

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